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Re: lpg conversion - which system is best
Reply #15 - 12. Jan 2010 at 00:35

duggs wrote on 12. Jan 2010 at 00:18:

Guys ! Educate me please.

Whats the point ? Say an LPG conversion costs 2k.
I appreaciate that gas is just about half the cost of unleaded BUT with an outlay of 2k initially you've got to do a huge amount of mileage AND keep the car for yonks for it to be worth while in the scheme of things.

2k is fast approaching the cost of the cars to begin with surely.

And surely by the time the cars have reached such high mileages, most of us, sell and buy something newer. I just don't get it ...sorry !!!

Are there other incentives to go LPG that i don't know of ?

On a brand new, fresh out of the garage car I can understand....suspecting that purchasers are going to keep the cars for at least 10 years or so but on Migs that are at very least 6/7 years old, unless I stand corrected, I just don't see the point..

I converted mine in August 2008 (DIY) and it had paid for itself by Christmas... I've had a year (28k) running about on the cheap stuff Wink

My car's just approaching 152k and is barely run in... In fact, I've had a few OOFers ask for first refusal if I sell Thumbs Up!

It's worth it financially as long as you'll do more than the payback mileage... And, of course, there's the green issue if it floats your boat as LPG burns much more cleanly Thumbs Up!

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Re: lpg conversion - which system is best
Reply #16 - 12. Jan 2010 at 01:07

Hmmmmmmmmmm !

Well based on what you have said I've got the old calculater out and when you look in to it...you have a point. DIY fitting obviously helps but even at 2k and based on the miles I do, it would only take about a year for me to start saving money...Well I never ?

How many miles do u get to a tank of LPG, can you run on LPG solely and does it effect performance.

I get 40p per mile for business miles, doing about 500 per month on average..hmmm gives me something to think about ??

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Re: lpg conversion - which system is best
Reply #17 - 12. Jan 2010 at 01:16

duggs wrote on 12. Jan 2010 at 01:07:

Hmmmmmmmmmm !

Well based on what you have said I've got the old calculater out and when you look in to it...you have a point. DIY fitting obviously helps but even at 2k and based on the miles I do, it would only take about a year for me to start saving money...Well I never ?

How many miles do u get to a tank of LPG, can you run on LPG solely and does it effect performance.

I get 40p per mile for business miles, doing about 500 per month on average..hmmm gives me something to think about ??

Seems to suggest a £2k conversion could pay for itself in arround 22K miles, in your case approx 2 years.

DIY approx a 1/3 of the cost, so paid for in a 1/3 of the time, so maybe savings are made after 8 months based on your mileage.

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Re: lpg conversion - which system is best
Reply #18 - 12. Jan 2010 at 08:54

duggs wrote on 12. Jan 2010 at 01:07:

Hmmmmmmmmmm !

Well based on what you have said I've got the old calculater out and when you look in to it...you have a point. DIY fitting obviously helps but even at 2k and based on the miles I do, it would only take about a year for me to start saving money...Well I never ?

How many miles do u get to a tank of LPG, can you run on LPG solely and does it effect performance.

I get 40p per mile for business miles, doing about 500 per month on average..hmmm gives me something to think about ??

I do about 25k/year, I would say that about 24k of that is on LPG. It runs on petrol for about the first mile and a bit, or 3-5 minutes Thumbs Up!

Car starts on petrol and warms up, then switches to LPG automatically. You hardly notice it TBH Wink

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Re: lpg conversion - which system is best
Reply #20 - 12. Jan 2010 at 11:52

for me I am planning on keeping car 4 a few years, I cannot afford to replace car every couple of years.
Also I am no mechanic and would need to get someone to fit system and I would only be helper -
admit it would be great to learn but still - I would be only of limited help.

I am a train driver so I work shifts and would not be able to get 2 or 3 weekends in a row to do this work -
I could not do without car for that long and if I worked some overtime it would pay for fitting with or 4 days overtime.

Also I am looking at 2 years parts and labour warranty included and hopefully peace of mind

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Re: lpg conversion - which system is best
Reply #21 - 12. Jan 2010 at 11:56

duggs wrote on 12. Jan 2010 at 11:00:

Blimey......so yer petrol bill is next to nothing. Wow !

I filled up with petrol during August because we were on the isle of Wight and not close to an LPG station. Used about a quarter of a tank before going back to LPG. I have just this weekend had to put more petrol in. That's 3/4 of a tank in 4 months!

Mine is set to switch over at 20 odd degrees C coolant temperature or 30 seconds running.

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Re: lpg conversion - which system is best
Reply #22 - 12. Jan 2010 at 12:16

Kevin Wood wrote on 12. Jan 2010 at 11:56:

duggs wrote on 12. Jan 2010 at 11:00:

Blimey......so yer petrol bill is next to nothing. Wow !

I filled up with petrol during August because we were on the isle of Wight and not close to an LPG station. Used about a quarter of a tank before going back to LPG. I have just this weekend had to put more petrol in. That's 3/4 of a tank in 4 months!

Mine is set to switch over at 20 odd degrees C coolant temperature or 30 seconds running.

Kevin

I reckon mine's about the same... 3 tanks per year, and thit includes a little petrol running if I miscalculate and run out of LPG Roll Eyes

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Re: lpg conversion - which system is best
Reply #23 - 12. Jan 2010 at 12:18

duggs wrote on 12. Jan 2010 at 01:07:

Hmmmmmmmmmm !

Well based on what you have said I've got the old calculater out and when you look in to it...you have a point. DIY fitting obviously helps but even at 2k and based on the miles I do, it would only take about a year for me to start saving money...Well I never ?

How many miles do u get to a tank of LPG, can you run on LPG solely and does it effect performance.

I get 40p per mile for business miles, doing about 500 per month on average..hmmm gives me something to think about ??

The only problem you've got is there aren't any LPG stations in Felixstowe Roll Eyes

But there are a couple of cheap(ish) ones in Ipswich if you go there often enough Thumbs Up!

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Re: lpg conversion - which system is best
Reply #24 - 12. Jan 2010 at 17:36

I have checked out my area and there are 2 stations that
do lpg in brighton so I can fill up near work. Grin

there are plenty of stations in south west england, wales
so you just have to put lpg into you sat nav to find out if
there are stations near you (if not then lpg will not be sensible conversion). Cry

you may find that some normal gas suppliers have lpg pumps and are 4-5p
cheaper than forcourt stations.

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Re: lpg conversion - which system is best
Reply #25 - 12. Jan 2010 at 18:59

idwal wrote on 12. Jan 2010 at 17:36:

I have checked out my area and there are 2 stations that
do lpg in brighton so I can fill up near work. Grin

there are plenty of stations in south west england, wales
so you just have to put lpg into you sat nav to find out if
there are stations near you (if not then lpg will not be sensible conversion). Cry

you may find that some normal gas suppliers have lpg pumps and are 4-5p
cheaper than forcourt stations.

ken

Don't know if they still do it but the BP at the bottom of the A23 (Junction with A27) used to do a discount accumulator... 1p per litre off each time you fill (starting at the 2nd fill up) growing to 10p per litre after the 10th Thumbs Up!

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idwal Junior Member Offline Posts: 101 telscombe cliffs near brighton Gender: Drives: (W REG) 3.0 mv6 estate (LPG)	Re: lpg conversion - which system is best Reply #26 - 13. Jan 2010 at 10:07 yes - that service station still sells lpg. its funny - but the south and south east of england never really got into lpg but south west england and wales did ken
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Re: lpg conversion - which system is best
Reply #27 - 13. Jan 2010 at 10:15

idwal wrote on 13. Jan 2010 at 10:07:

yes - that service station still sells lpg. Thumbs Up!

its funny - but the south and south east of england
never really got into lpg but south west england and wales
did Huh

ken

Midlands (stoke/coventry/birminham) and Yorkshire (Huddersfield, Leeds, Sheffield) and South Wales (Cardiff) all seem to me to have far more LPG places, at much cheaper prices than most.

Swidnod, for all its size only has 1 petrol station, 1 calor place (limited hours) and 1 "account only" place. None of the Supermarkets sell it, but in cardiff there are loads of places and, to my intimate knowledge, 2 supermarkets .. Sad

So coverage is, I would say ... "sporadic"

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Lazydocker Omega King Offline Victim of Pinky's Power Trip! Posts: 11336 Woodbridge, Suffolk Gender: Drives: 2003 3.2 Elite Estate LPG Converted, inspected and Certified	Re: lpg conversion - which system is best Reply #28 - 13. Jan 2010 at 10:16 idwal wrote on 13. Jan 2010 at 10:07: yes - that service station still sells lpg. its funny - but the south and south east of england never really got into lpg but south west england and wales did ken I meant the discount scheme Must check as I go that way fairly often
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idwal Junior Member Offline Posts: 101 telscombe cliffs near brighton Gender: Drives: (W REG) 3.0 mv6 estate (LPG)	Re: lpg conversion - which system is best Reply #29 - 13. Jan 2010 at 16:51 No - I did not know about the discount part, if they do then it would help If you could let me know that would be great, thank you ken
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