This is the old site. Please use the new site.

  Welcome, Guest. Please Login
Omega Owners Forum
 
  Home Shop Help Search Members Login  
 

This is the old site. Please use the new site.

www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php.

 
Pages: 1 2 3 
Send Topic Print
lpg conversion - which system is best (Read 3579 times)
idwal
Junior Member
**
Offline



Posts: 101
telscombe cliffs near brighton
Gender: male

Drives: (W REG) 3.0 mv6  estate (LPG)
lpg conversion - which system is best
11. Jan 2010 at 13:23
 
Hi - I have just bought a 3.0 v6 estate and intend to lpg it

can anyone help me with which system is best of omega

BRC, LANDIRENZO's OMEGAS and PowerJET SGI, PRINS ect.

thanks
ken    (newbie)
Back to top
 
idwal idwal67 idwal67@yahoo.com  
IP Logged
 
tunnie
Over Active Poster
*********
Offline



Posts: 22520
London, W3
Gender: male

Drives: 2.2 CD (LPG'd) & BMW R1200 GS
Re: lpg conversion - which system is best
Reply #1 - 11. Jan 2010 at 13:24
 
Stag kit is used by many here, works well on the V6  Thumbs Up!
Back to top
 

Do you break V6's as often as TheBoy? Then you need tunnie's towing services, recovery costs are just the humiliation of being towed by 2/3's of an engine
 
IP Logged
 
wingman
Intermediate Member
***
Offline



Posts: 291
Hastings
Gender: male

Drives: Insignia Elite 2.0 CDTi (3.2 LPG Elite Now Sold)
Re: lpg conversion - which system is best
Reply #2 - 11. Jan 2010 at 16:51
 
The Zavoli system suits my 3.2 Elite OK
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
Kevin Wood
Global Moderator
Admin Team
*******
Offline



Posts: 20377
Alton, Hampshire
Gender: male

Drives: 3.2 MV6 (LPG), Westfield
Re: lpg conversion - which system is best
Reply #3 - 11. Jan 2010 at 17:11
 
If it's down to how much support you will get on here there is only one choice - the AC Stag 300. Must have at least half a dozen members who are currently running around on them, and all DIY installed too.

The problem with many other systems is that, even though all LPG setups are very similar, the software to get into the ECU is either not available, expensive or restricted to "approved" dealers, which locks you in to paying someone to support it.

Kevin
Back to top
 

Tech2 services currently available. See TheBoy's price list: http://theboy.omegaowners.com/
 
IP Logged
 
xwai
Junior Member
**
Offline



Posts: 146
leicestershire

Drives: mv6
Re: lpg conversion - which system is best
Reply #4 - 11. Jan 2010 at 20:51
 
mines fitted with a brc , which apart from a relay has been fine .
Back to top
 

mv6 on gas , mk1 astra gte , mk4 cortina ghia
 
IP Logged
 
deejaywardy
Junior Member
**
Offline



Posts: 140
Grantham
Gender: male

Drives: 3.2 v6 Omega Special
Re: lpg conversion - which system is best
Reply #5 - 11. Jan 2010 at 20:56
 
tunnie wrote on 11. Jan 2010 at 13:24:
Stag kit is used by many here, works well on the V6  Thumbs Up!




my omega 3.2 elite is running LPG how do i find out what kit mine is running ?? as i dont have paperwork or anything for the conversion ???

thanks
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
idwal
Junior Member
**
Offline



Posts: 101
telscombe cliffs near brighton
Gender: male

Drives: (W REG) 3.0 mv6  estate (LPG)
Re: lpg conversion - which system is best
Reply #6 - 11. Jan 2010 at 21:54
 
xwai - was you system diy fitment or dealer fitted?
also - which model/type does yours have?

Kevin Wood - the AC Stag 300 - when I spoke to dealer who would fit system they said they would provide software to analyze and correct ecu problems ect.
have you used this with your system?

thanks
ken
Back to top
 
idwal idwal67 idwal67@yahoo.com  
IP Logged
 
Entwood
Omega King
********
Offline


Quietly Confident

Posts: 13708
North Wiltshire
Gender: male

Drives: 3.2 Elite (with LPG)
Re: lpg conversion - which system is best
Reply #7 - 11. Jan 2010 at 21:56
 
I have a BRC system - professionally fitted - which I'm exceedingly pleased with .. but it was not cheap .. £2200 two years ago .. so bound to be more now ....  Sad
Back to top
 

V6 Cam locking/setting kit, Maxscan GS500 OBDII code reader/EML resetter available.   Click for some Pictures
 
IP Logged
 
Kevin Wood
Global Moderator
Admin Team
*******
Offline



Posts: 20377
Alton, Hampshire
Gender: male

Drives: 3.2 MV6 (LPG), Westfield
Re: lpg conversion - which system is best
Reply #8 - 11. Jan 2010 at 22:00
 
idwal wrote on 11. Jan 2010 at 21:54:
Kevin Wood - the AC Stag 300 - when I spoke to dealer who would fit system they said they would provide software to analyze and correct ecu problems ect.
have you used this with your system?


Yes - it's called AcGasSynchro IIRC. Not the greatest bit of software in the world (I guess they don't specialise in windows app development) but it gets the job done. You can download it from www.ac.com.pl to have a look but it doesn't do a great deal until it connects to an ECU.

Kevin
Back to top
 

Tech2 services currently available. See TheBoy's price list: http://theboy.omegaowners.com/
 
IP Logged
 
Lazydocker
Omega King
********
Offline


Victim of Pinky's Power
Trip!

Posts: 11336
Woodbridge, Suffolk
Gender: male

Drives: 2003 3.2 Elite Estate LPG Converted, inspected and Certified
Re: lpg conversion - which system is best
Reply #9 - 11. Jan 2010 at 23:05
 
Stag kit works very well on the Omega... Just got to sort the supply issues some have recently experienced, although I have spoken to Teilo now (see here)

Incidentally Kevin, Do you fancy doing a proper "How To" guide when I convert my new car, assuming I manage to get it?
Back to top
 

Whatever it is... I didn't do it
Lazydocker  
IP Logged
 
Kevin Wood
Global Moderator
Admin Team
*******
Offline



Posts: 20377
Alton, Hampshire
Gender: male

Drives: 3.2 MV6 (LPG), Westfield
Re: lpg conversion - which system is best
Reply #10 - 11. Jan 2010 at 23:07
 
Lazydocker wrote on 11. Jan 2010 at 23:05:
Stag kit works very well on the Omega... Just got to sort the supply issues some have recently experienced, although I have spoken to Teilo now (see here)

Incidentally Kevin, Do you fancy doing a proper "How To" guide when I convert my new car, assuming I manage to get it?


Been meaning to do a how to for about 2 years now.  Grin Yes, let's see if we can sort it.

Kevin
Back to top
 

Tech2 services currently available. See TheBoy's price list: http://theboy.omegaowners.com/
 
IP Logged
 
Lazydocker
Omega King
********
Offline


Victim of Pinky's Power
Trip!

Posts: 11336
Woodbridge, Suffolk
Gender: male

Drives: 2003 3.2 Elite Estate LPG Converted, inspected and Certified
Re: lpg conversion - which system is best
Reply #11 - 11. Jan 2010 at 23:10
 
Kevin Wood wrote on 11. Jan 2010 at 23:07:
Lazydocker wrote on 11. Jan 2010 at 23:05:
Stag kit works very well on the Omega... Just got to sort the supply issues some have recently experienced, although I have spoken to Teilo now (see here)

Incidentally Kevin, Do you fancy doing a proper "How To" guide when I convert my new car, assuming I manage to get it?


Been meaning to do a how to for about 2 years now.  Grin Yes, let's see if we can sort it.

Kevin


I'll bring the Bacon Wink Grin
Back to top
 

Whatever it is... I didn't do it
Lazydocker  
IP Logged
 
Martin Imber
Over Active Poster
*********
Offline


LPG Omega V6 - Keyfobs
Rebuilt

Posts: 20110
Worcester
Gender: male

Drives: 2001 Omega 2.6CD LPG & 3.0 cams
Re: lpg conversion - which system is best
Reply #12 - 12. Jan 2010 at 00:06
 
Money no object Prinz is supposed to be the best.

Romano cannot supply gas fast enough for 200bhp, fine for standard 2.5 2.6, but not 3.0, 3.2, nor tuned 2.5, 2.6 at full throttle, This is partly due to quiet low maintenace injectors not liking high gas pressures
Back to top
 

The other tuned 2.6. DIY LPG, towbar, upgrade ICE & Wing Spoiler, Air shocks, Eibach Pro Springs, Poly WB bushes, WIM setup, HID conversion, 3.0 cams, ported ect.
WWW  
IP Logged
 
duggs
Omega Knight
*****
Offline



Posts: 1072
Felixstowe
Gender: male

Drives: 2000 3.0 V6 ELITE
Re: lpg conversion - which system is best
Reply #13 - 12. Jan 2010 at 00:18
 
Guys !   Educate me please.

Whats the point ?  Say an LPG conversion costs 2k.
I appreaciate that gas is just about half the cost of unleaded BUT with an outlay of 2k initially you've got to do a huge amount of mileage AND keep the car for yonks for it to be worth while in the scheme of things.

2k is fast approaching the cost of the cars to begin with surely.

And surely by the time the cars have reached such high mileages, most of us, sell and buy something newer. I just don't get it ...sorry  !!!

Are there other incentives to go LPG that i don't know of ?

On a brand new, fresh out of the garage car I can understand....suspecting that purchasers are going to keep the cars for at least 10 years or so but on Migs that are at very least 6/7 years old, unless I stand corrected, I just don't see the point..
Back to top
« Last Edit: 12. Jan 2010 at 00:23 by duggs »  
 
IP Logged
 
Kevin Wood
Global Moderator
Admin Team
*******
Offline



Posts: 20377
Alton, Hampshire
Gender: male

Drives: 3.2 MV6 (LPG), Westfield
Re: lpg conversion - which system is best
Reply #14 - 12. Jan 2010 at 00:34
 
Well, your £2k drops to £700 if you DIY. In 7 or 8k miles (6 months driving for me) It's paid for itself and the rest is saving. about 14 pence per mile versus about 22 pence per mile on petrol. Thumbs Up!

Kevin
Back to top
 

Tech2 services currently available. See TheBoy's price list: http://theboy.omegaowners.com/
 
IP Logged
 
Pages: 1 2 3 
Send Topic Print

This is the old site. Please use the new site.