I was talking to Lord Lucan and Elvis the other day and they both think the C.I.A. were behind this 

Let us look at the theory you want me to believe then.

The pankcake theory as it is known. Fire buckles the beams and the floor gives way. Above it is 22 more floors and they as a huge block will fall and form the top pankcake, the massive weight and speed of falling will crushe the following floor and so on until we end up at the ground.

Ok, first of all, you are forgetting the central core. What happened to that? because that isn't concrete, so cannot just expolode like concrete cam.

Then there is the fact that we didn't end up with a 12 story lump on top of all the crushed floors either.

The speed the buildings collapsed has been measured at 9.6 seconds from start to finish. That calculates to free fall speed. Impossible as the resistance of each floor will slow the collapse.

So, you are wondering how this was all arranged and set up in a matter of hours? it wasn't. It was set up over a number of years. There was upgrading of all floors carried out over several years. More than enough time to install everything.

The weekend before 911 all power was cut to the entire WTC, stopping all CCTV as well as everything else. There was heavy drilling and installation carried out during that weekend.

There were exposions in the basement, necessary to make room for the collapse.

Building 7 was rock solid. No steel constructed building has ever collapsed unless being demolished. This particluar 42 story building was shielded from most danmage by buildings 5 & 6, which oddly did not collapse dispite massively more damage and fire.

I do not know what did happen. I do know that the truth is very far from just a plane striking the buildings. Explosions can be clearly seen in front of the falling buildings just as in any demolition.

IF what I say has any truth in it at all, how could the people who actually knew and actually did this live with what they did? that one is beyond me.

I wasn't there so I do not know. I just go by the obvious fact that tere was demolition involved. You coul not just demolish these buildings, so hit them first and it all seems ok.

I challange anyone at all to explain how building 7 just collapsed in a beuatiful perfect way, with enough space for all the rubble. When two much more severely damaged buildings in front of it remained. Anyone?

Wall st. lost money for a lot lot longer than a few days. But if you believe the conspiracy theory then the reason presumably, would have to be that it gave Bush the excuse to do what he did.

Unicornrider wrote on 11. Sep 2010 at 16:30:


Me, believe what I am told?  How little you know me

Believe me I'm my own woman every time!

Unicornrider wrote on 11. Sep 2010 at 16:57:



Absolutely right to do so!    Don't worry as some on here know I can be of a very strong mind and voice, being as stubborn as I can, as of course I am a woman!!

I am glad Unicornrider that you have joined into a debate when being new to the forum, and long may you continue to do so!

Here's to the next debate

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This allegation is sourced to one person, Scott Forbes of Fiduciary Trust. He claims that "this power down condition meant there was no electrical supply for approx 36hrs from floor 50 up". So NOT the entire WTC. Additionally, he was unable to verify that claim. Interview transcript:

How do you know that there was no electricity from floor 50 up, if Fiduciary Trust was on much higher floors -- starting at the 90th floor?

SF: I can't absolutely verify that there was no power on lower floors ... all I can validate is that we were informed of the power down condition, that we had to take down all systems and then the following day had to bring back up all systems ...

No mention of heavy drilling. No entire WTC power down.

http://www.911myths.com/html/wtc_power_down.html

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As the floors collapse they take with them increasing energy, enough to offset resistance. Each floor collapse acted like a hammer - increasing in mass with each level. That's not going against Newton's law, it just means that the sheer weight would have made the lower floors collapse as if they weren't there at all.

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This is just idle speculation. What does an explosion look like? If it's merely ejection of material, then it must be remembered that the collapsing floors were increasing downward air pressure in a violent manner, thus the sideward ejection of loose material is likely.


For a 33-story building, it takes 12 persons 24 days to lay 4,118 separate charges in 1,100 locations on 9 levels of the structure. Over 36,000 ft. of detonating cord and 4,512 non-electric delay devices are used.

http://www.controlled-demolition.com/default.asp?reqLocId=6&reqItemId=2002030414...

I doubt you could ever find 12 American citizens who were prepared to lay charges throughout the WTC. Of course that number is in addition to all the planners and the detonation crew. Were this to be true, they would all be accessories to mass murder. The Americans are fiercely loyal to their own nationality. Any thought of mass slaughter of US citizens may be entertained by a few deranged home-grown individuals but, if you believe this hoax, the necessary covert planning and execution to make it happen would in reality have been impossible.   

Finally, hoaxers believe that the plane-hijackings were a part of the grand scheme. How did they ensure airport security did not apprehend the suspects by chance before they were able to board? If you're planning such a complex operation, you don't leave things like that to possibly screw things up, so were the airport security approached by men with dark glasses before 11 September? 

The whole idea that this was anything other than an Al-Qaida terrorist attack is interesting when you first look at it, but barmy when you look deeper. (IMHO)

   

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Apparently all that section had been closed for renovation/decoration.  No work had started abd yet there was not a single person in that party of the Pentagon.

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/wtc7.html?q=wtc7.html

http://www.rense.com/general65/911b.htm

and an important video, check micheal moore fahrenheit 9/11 from google .. you will find many useful links..