Omega Owners Forum - Terrible Wear !

duggs Omega Knight Offline Posts: 1072 Felixstowe Gender: Drives: 2000 3.0 V6 ELITE	Re: Terrible Wear ! Reply #30 - 10. Nov 2010 at 00:32 Sailed through the MOT today. Tyre wear seems to have been down to a flubbered track rod. Wheels were realigned, not I'm actually go straight when the steering wheels going straight..o joy.
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Ady Ex Member	Re: Terrible Wear ! Reply #31 - 10. Nov 2010 at 01:43 how do you drive straight ive never been able to get that right in an omega
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duggs Omega Knight Offline Posts: 1072 Felixstowe Gender: Drives: 2000 3.0 V6 ELITE	Re: Terrible Wear ! Reply #32 - 10. Nov 2010 at 13:56 Straight within 5ft tolerance either way...kinda like a swaying motion.
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TheBoy Administrator Offline TBE has an MOT! Posts: 64817 Brackley, Northants Gender: Drives: 98 MV6, 03 Elite, 00 25, 89 ZX10	Re: Terrible Wear ! Reply #33 - 10. Nov 2010 at 18:46 duggs wrote on 10. Nov 2010 at 00:32: Sailed through the MOT today. Tyre wear seems to have been down to a flubbered track rod. Wheels were realigned, not I'm actually go straight when the steering wheels going straight..o joy. No, if your tyres were wearing on inner edge, that is camber. Only camber. Sorry.
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Ady Ex Member	Re: Terrible Wear ! Reply #34 - 10. Nov 2010 at 18:58 when it comes to tracking if your wheels "toe in" it wears outer edge and if your wheels "toe out" it wears inner edge
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Re: Terrible Wear !
Reply #35 - 10. Nov 2010 at 19:36

If the track rod was flubbered, pushing the RH wheel out of alignment, would that not have the same effect. The left hand tyre was generally ok...just worn down throughout.

I thought, perhaps wrongly, that a track rod helps to keep a wheel running true and if it fails or is set wrong then the wheels will not sit correctly or "run inline together".

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Re: Terrible Wear !
Reply #36 - 10. Nov 2010 at 20:57

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when it comes to tracking if your wheels "toe in" it wears outer edge and if your wheels "toe out" it wears inner edge Roll Eyes

IIRC the book of lies used to include a set of pictures showing tyre wear. There was probably an example of what you have described but the pictures were of skinny cross ply tyres.

Tracking bad enough to cause the inner edge wear that Omegas are prone to with modern tyres would result in truly horrible steering.

I drove an Omega for several years and paid for '4 wheel alignment' by people who should have known better but didn't discover the cause of my tyre wear until I joined OOF fairly recently.

Tracking is important but camber is the thing that destroys Omega tyres and almost no-one (with the notable exception of WIM) can be trusted to get it right. Angry

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TheBoy Administrator Offline TBE has an MOT! Posts: 64817 Brackley, Northants Gender: Drives: 98 MV6, 03 Elite, 00 25, 89 ZX10	Re: Terrible Wear ! Reply #37 - 11. Nov 2010 at 18:35 Quote: when it comes to tracking if your wheels "toe in" it wears outer edge and if your wheels "toe out" it wears inner edge Not shoulder edge wear
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Reply #38 - 12. Nov 2010 at 00:53

Andy H wrote on 10. Nov 2010 at 20:57:

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when it comes to tracking if your wheels "toe in" it wears outer edge and if your wheels "toe out" it wears inner edge Roll Eyes

IIRC the book of lies used to include a set of pictures showing tyre wear. There was probably an example of what you have described but the pictures were of skinny cross ply tyres.

Tracking bad enough to cause the inner edge wear that Omegas are prone to with modern tyres would result in truly horrible steering.

I drove an Omega for several years and paid for '4 wheel alignment' by people who should have known better but didn't discover the cause of my tyre wear until I joined OOF fairly recently.

Tracking is important but camber is the thing that destroys Omega tyres and almost no-one (with the notable exception of WIM) can be trusted to get it right. Angry

well if your refering to an haynes manual Ive never looked in 1 i get my knowlegde from experience and after owning just about every car vauxhall have made between 1980-2000 (in excess of 300) with wheels ranging from 145x55x13 upto 345x25x20 i know quite well about tyre wear from the road and the track and the skid pan and from what is described sounds like a tracking issue but looking at my screen i could be wrong i cant see the tyre in question from here Tongue

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Re: Terrible Wear !
Reply #39 - 12. Nov 2010 at 00:58

TheBoy wrote on 11. Nov 2010 at 18:35:

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when it comes to tracking if your wheels "toe in" it wears outer edge and if your wheels "toe out" it wears inner edge Roll Eyes

Not shoulder edge wear Wink

now shoulder edge wear is a whole different ball game usually caused by weak springs or too much lowering which causes bad camber also steering idler arms cause shoulder wear along with failed wheel bearings Cool

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Lazydocker Omega King Offline Victim of Pinky's Power Trip! Posts: 11336 Woodbridge, Suffolk Gender: Drives: 2003 3.2 Elite Estate LPG Converted, inspected and Certified	Re: Terrible Wear ! Reply #40 - 12. Nov 2010 at 15:38 Duggs, trust me, you need to get a full geometry check done by WIM or one of the franchises ASAP
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omegadti Junior Member Offline Posts: 203 Glasgow Gender: Drives: omega 2.2dti cdx	Re: Terrible Wear ! Reply #41 - 13. Nov 2010 at 15:54 does anyone know a reliable place in or near glasgow to have a geometric check done?
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Re: Terrible Wear !
Reply #42 - 14. Nov 2010 at 11:54

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TheBoy wrote on 11. Nov 2010 at 18:35:

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when it comes to tracking if your wheels "toe in" it wears outer edge and if your wheels "toe out" it wears inner edge Roll Eyes

Not shoulder edge wear Wink

now shoulder edge wear is a whole different ball game usually caused by weak springs or too much lowering which causes bad camber also steering idler arms cause shoulder wear along with failed wheel bearings Cool

Everything on the car will wear over time, plus Vauxhalls awful factory spec (too wide, and mid point gives too much camber), but the wear is pretty irrelevant - its how the car sits with those components.

In this case, it is most definately CAMBER - I've seen the car Wink

To be honest, with Omega, a variety of things come together (age, poor factory spec, the fact most will have had new suspension components, wear etc) making tracking a waste of time and money. Full geometry (about double cost of tracking) is the sensible option Thumbs Up!

Lastly, not a fault with tracking, but the monkeys at tyre places, Omega has steering box, not rack, and this MUST be central, as I'm sure you know. Shame the monkeys don't, so I'd always use a geometry specialist on that basis alone.

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