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chrisgixer

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Re: Hinged/Sprung numberplate
Reply #15 - 14. Nov 2010 at 17:09

Plus, the design I had involved pulling on the number plate itself to open it. Too stiff a catch or spring may involve the number plate bending, deforming, or the bolt holes pulling through the plastic or the plastic deforming around the number plate holes, or distorting or obscuring the numbers over time.....if the plate bracket was the same size as the number plate then fine as fingers could pull on the metal behind instead.

As TB pointed out, his magnets where too stiff to open the bracket, so had to be spaced away, if applied to the design on my old car there is a risk of pulling the number plate off the bracket altogether. Poppers or Velcro catches may be either too stiff to pull off a flat surface, if you see what I mean. Poppers can be pulled off from one side at an angle, and Velcro pealed away from one corner. Magnets can slide of far easier than when pulled directly away.

Spring loaded seems simplest, although TB made his magnets work well it's in addition to the spring needed anyway.

But it's all by the by, been searching for most of the afternoon and only found my own car advert to be relevant Cheesy

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GooseMan Omega Knight Offline Posts: 1351 Shropshire Gender: Drives: 3.2 saloon special	Re: Hinged/Sprung numberplate Reply #16 - 14. Nov 2010 at 17:20 Rather than springs, have you thought about using the Dzus fasterns like they use on race panels ?. http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/Motorsport/Fasteners_&_Hose_Clips/Quick_Release_Fa... http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/Motorsport/Fasteners_&_Hose_Clips/Quick_Release_Fa...
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Re: Hinged/Sprung numberplate
Reply #17 - 14. Nov 2010 at 17:21

chrisgixer wrote on 14. Nov 2010 at 17:09:

Plus, the design I had involved pulling on the number plate itself to open it. Too stiff a catch or spring may involve the number plate bending, deforming, or the bolt holes pulling through the plastic or the plastic deforming around the number plate holes, or distorting or obscuring the numbers over time.....if the plate bracket was the same size as the number plate then fine as fingers could pull on the metal behind instead.

As TB pointed out, his magnets where too stiff to open the bracket, so had to be spaced away, if applied to the design on my old car there is a risk of pulling the number plate off the bracket altogether. Poppers or Velcro catches may be either too stiff to pull off a flat surface, if you see what I mean. Poppers can be pulled off from one side at an angle, and Velcro pealed away from one corner. Magnets can slide of far easier than when pulled directly away.

Spring loaded seems simplest, although TB made his magnets work well it's in addition to the spring needed anyway.

But it's all by the by, been searching for most of the afternoon and only found my own car advert to be relevant Cheesy

On mine, the magnets are the primary method of keeping it closed and rattle free, the spring is there to ensure it stays closed (if it gets jolted over a bump, enthusiastic 'handling tests' etc).

I am toying with a simple (unsprung) hinged flap, with some kind of twist-90degrees type catch...

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Re: Hinged/Sprung numberplate
Reply #18 - 14. Nov 2010 at 17:24

TheBoy wrote on 14. Nov 2010 at 17:21:

chrisgixer wrote on 14. Nov 2010 at 17:09:

Plus, the design I had involved pulling on the number plate itself to open it. Too stiff a catch or spring may involve the number plate bending, deforming, or the bolt holes pulling through the plastic or the plastic deforming around the number plate holes, or distorting or obscuring the numbers over time.....if the plate bracket was the same size as the number plate then fine as fingers could pull on the metal behind instead.

As TB pointed out, his magnets where too stiff to open the bracket, so had to be spaced away, if applied to the design on my old car there is a risk of pulling the number plate off the bracket altogether. Poppers or Velcro catches may be either too stiff to pull off a flat surface, if you see what I mean. Poppers can be pulled off from one side at an angle, and Velcro pealed away from one corner. Magnets can slide of far easier than when pulled directly away.

Spring loaded seems simplest, although TB made his magnets work well it's in addition to the spring needed anyway.

But it's all by the by, been searching for most of the afternoon and only found my own car advert to be relevant Cheesy

On mine, the magnets are the primary method of keeping it closed and rattle free, the spring is there to ensure it stays closed (if it gets jolted over a bump, enthusiastic 'handling tests' etc).

I am toying with a simple (unsprung) hinged flap, with some kind of twist-90degrees type catch...

Have a look into Dzus Fasteners, that sounds like precisely what you want - either screwdriver operated or via a built in D-ring:
http://www.motorcycletoystore.com/sport/shop.php/motorcycle-fasteners/dzus-faste...

Come in two parts - the fastener plate and the fastener itself. Mount plate to bumper, mount fastener to numberplate et voila.

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Entwood Omega King Offline Quietly Confident Posts: 13708 North Wiltshire Gender: Drives: 3.2 Elite (with LPG)	Re: Hinged/Sprung numberplate Reply #19 - 14. Nov 2010 at 17:25 On the aircraft many panels require "easy access" but MUST be very secure. This is done using DZUS fasteners.... several types exist from screwdriver types to handle (wing nut) types .. http://www.tpub.com/content/aviation/14014/css/14014_109.htm HTH
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Re: Hinged/Sprung numberplate
Reply #20 - 14. Nov 2010 at 17:29

aaronjb wrote on 14. Nov 2010 at 17:24:

TheBoy wrote on 14. Nov 2010 at 17:21:

chrisgixer wrote on 14. Nov 2010 at 17:09:

Plus, the design I had involved pulling on the number plate itself to open it. Too stiff a catch or spring may involve the number plate bending, deforming, or the bolt holes pulling through the plastic or the plastic deforming around the number plate holes, or distorting or obscuring the numbers over time.....if the plate bracket was the same size as the number plate then fine as fingers could pull on the metal behind instead.

As TB pointed out, his magnets where too stiff to open the bracket, so had to be spaced away, if applied to the design on my old car there is a risk of pulling the number plate off the bracket altogether. Poppers or Velcro catches may be either too stiff to pull off a flat surface, if you see what I mean. Poppers can be pulled off from one side at an angle, and Velcro pealed away from one corner. Magnets can slide of far easier than when pulled directly away.

Spring loaded seems simplest, although TB made his magnets work well it's in addition to the spring needed anyway.

But it's all by the by, been searching for most of the afternoon and only found my own car advert to be relevant Cheesy

On mine, the magnets are the primary method of keeping it closed and rattle free, the spring is there to ensure it stays closed (if it gets jolted over a bump, enthusiastic 'handling tests' etc).

I am toying with a simple (unsprung) hinged flap, with some kind of twist-90degrees type catch...

Have a look into Dzus Fasteners, that sounds like precisely what you want - either screwdriver operated or via a built in D-ring:
http://www.motorcycletoystore.com/sport/shop.php/motorcycle-fasteners/dzus-faste...

Come in two parts - the fastener plate and the fastener itself. Mount plate to bumper, mount fastener to numberplate et voila.

How much

Another idea was those press to latch/unlatch fasteners, again on a hinged flap. Or use a couple of them along with the magnets, and no hinge.

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Andy B Over Active Poster Offline Posts: 21988 Bury Lancs Gender: Drives: 1999 3.0 Elite auto/TDM	Re: Hinged/Sprung numberplate Reply #21 - 14. Nov 2010 at 17:31 TheBoy wrote on 14. Nov 2010 at 17:29: ..... Another idea was those press to latch/unlatch fasteners, again on a hinged flap. Or use a couple of them along with the magnets, and no hinge. Velco would be your cheapest!
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Re: Hinged/Sprung numberplate
Reply #22 - 14. Nov 2010 at 17:32

Andy B wrote on 14. Nov 2010 at 17:31:

TheBoy wrote on 14. Nov 2010 at 17:29:

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Another idea was those press to latch/unlatch fasteners, again on a hinged flap. Or use a couple of them along with the magnets, and no hinge.

Velco would be your cheapest! Thumbs Up!

I doubt that would pass an MOT. Also, when the velcro gets wet over time, the adhesive is likely to go off...

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Re: Hinged/Sprung numberplate
Reply #23 - 14. Nov 2010 at 17:39

TheBoy wrote on 14. Nov 2010 at 17:29:

aaronjb wrote on 14. Nov 2010 at 17:24:

TheBoy wrote on 14. Nov 2010 at 17:21:

chrisgixer wrote on 14. Nov 2010 at 17:09:

Plus, the design I had involved pulling on the number plate itself to open it. Too stiff a catch or spring may involve the number plate bending, deforming, or the bolt holes pulling through the plastic or the plastic deforming around the number plate holes, or distorting or obscuring the numbers over time.....if the plate bracket was the same size as the number plate then fine as fingers could pull on the metal behind instead.

As TB pointed out, his magnets where too stiff to open the bracket, so had to be spaced away, if applied to the design on my old car there is a risk of pulling the number plate off the bracket altogether. Poppers or Velcro catches may be either too stiff to pull off a flat surface, if you see what I mean. Poppers can be pulled off from one side at an angle, and Velcro pealed away from one corner. Magnets can slide of far easier than when pulled directly away.

Spring loaded seems simplest, although TB made his magnets work well it's in addition to the spring needed anyway.

But it's all by the by, been searching for most of the afternoon and only found my own car advert to be relevant Cheesy

On mine, the magnets are the primary method of keeping it closed and rattle free, the spring is there to ensure it stays closed (if it gets jolted over a bump, enthusiastic 'handling tests' etc).

I am toying with a simple (unsprung) hinged flap, with some kind of twist-90degrees type catch...

Have a look into Dzus Fasteners, that sounds like precisely what you want - either screwdriver operated or via a built in D-ring:
http://www.motorcycletoystore.com/sport/shop.php/motorcycle-fasteners/dzus-faste...

Come in two parts - the fastener plate and the fastener itself. Mount plate to bumper, mount fastener to numberplate et voila.

How much

Another idea was those press to latch/unlatch fasteners, again on a hinged flap. Or use a couple of them along with the magnets, and no hinge.

£18 for 4..
http://www.mandp.co.uk/productinfo.aspx?catref=516293&tier1url=Bodywork&tier2url...

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Re: Hinged/Sprung numberplate
Reply #24 - 14. Nov 2010 at 17:43

TheBoy wrote on 14. Nov 2010 at 17:32:

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I doubt that would pass an MOT.

I can't see why, mine are both fixed to the car with the double sided sticky tabs, ie no visible fasteners, Mr MOT Man doesn't grab hold to see how well fixed they are (mine doesn't).

TheBoy wrote on 14. Nov 2010 at 17:32:

Also, when the velcro gets wet over time, the adhesive is likely to go off...

If both bits are properly cleaned, I can't see the glue holding any less well than the way my number plates are held ...... the Velco won't be taking the weight of the plate & hinge. Undecided

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GooseMan Omega Knight Offline Posts: 1351 Shropshire Gender: Drives: 3.2 saloon special	Re: Hinged/Sprung numberplate Reply #25 - 14. Nov 2010 at 17:43 Or you could try from the usual place if you don't want to pay too much ! http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/DZUS-FASTENERS-FAIRING-PANEL-FASTENERS-4-PACK-/27065593798...
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chrisgixer Omega King Offline Black ones are faster. Posts: 14570 Wokingham Gender: Drives: "Omega Black" 3.2 Elite. Thanks to Joshwyatt.	Re: Hinged/Sprung numberplate Reply #26 - 14. Nov 2010 at 17:47 Before I fitted the bracket, I was happy just to unscrew the existing number plate screw on one side and let the number plate tilt down to reveal the filler, just keep the screw driver in the boot. But I think the bracket is more appealing,more convenient. if only we could find the maker
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chrisgixer Omega King Offline Black ones are faster. Posts: 14570 Wokingham Gender: Drives: "Omega Black" 3.2 Elite. Thanks to Joshwyatt.	Re: Hinged/Sprung numberplate Reply #27 - 14. Nov 2010 at 18:10 Found it, PDF catalogue third of the way down, described as "number plate hinge system" silly me not googling that . Anyway, looks exactly as mine, sorry, my old one. http://www.fesautogas.co.uk/catstp2009.pdf
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chrisgixer Omega King Offline Black ones are faster. Posts: 14570 Wokingham Gender: Drives: "Omega Black" 3.2 Elite. Thanks to Joshwyatt.	Re: Hinged/Sprung numberplate Reply #28 - 14. Nov 2010 at 18:39 Just emailed them for a price.
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Entwood Omega King Offline Quietly Confident Posts: 13708 North Wiltshire Gender: Drives: 3.2 Elite (with LPG)	Re: Hinged/Sprung numberplate Reply #29 - 14. Nov 2010 at 18:55 chrisgixer wrote on 14. Nov 2010 at 18:10: Found it, PDF catalogue third of the way down, described as "number plate hinge system" silly me not googling that . Anyway, looks exactly as mine, sorry, my old one. http://www.fesautogas.co.uk/catstp2009.pdf Page 53 / 154 last item ..
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