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bigdavy60 Newbie Offline Posts: 40 west of scotland Drives: omga 2.2dti	Re: bigdavy60 Reply #60 - 17. Jan 2011 at 13:32 Kneepad wrote on 15. Jan 2011 at 20:56: Glad to hear you found a pump in the fuel tank. I was beginning have doubts. ill let you know how it goes mate fingers crossed
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greenfingers 79 Junior Member Offline Posts: 132	Re: bigdavy60 Reply #61 - 17. Jan 2011 at 14:52 yes was my 2.2dti with starting problems and the lifter pump in the tank is exactly the same as posted pics for the 2.5td 20 min job
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bigdavy60 Newbie Offline Posts: 40 west of scotland Drives: omga 2.2dti	Re: bigdavy60 Reply #62 - 17. Jan 2011 at 22:37 greenfingers 79 wrote on 17. Jan 2011 at 14:52: yes was my 2.2dti with starting problems and the lifter pump in the tank is exactly the same as posted pics for the 2.5td 20 min job where are these pics posted mate
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Reply #63 - 17. Jan 2011 at 22:50

bigdavy60 wrote on 17. Jan 2011 at 22:37:

greenfingers 79 wrote on 17. Jan 2011 at 14:52:

yes was my 2.2dti with starting problems and the lifter pump in the tank is exactly the same as posted pics for the 2.5td
20 min job Thumbs Up!

where are these pics posted mate

Way up above in another post, here they are again:

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1251298222

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Reply #64 - 17. Jan 2011 at 23:08

Kneepad wrote on 17. Jan 2011 at 22:50:

bigdavy60 wrote on 17. Jan 2011 at 22:37:

greenfingers 79 wrote on 17. Jan 2011 at 14:52:

yes was my 2.2dti with starting problems and the lifter pump in the tank is exactly the same as posted pics for the 2.5td
20 min job Thumbs Up!

where are these pics posted mate

Way up above in another post, here they are again:

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1251298222

yeah very good info there mate ill get stuck into that tomorow, lets hope we get a result watch this space. cheers

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Reply #65 - 17. Jan 2011 at 23:09

Fergy wrote

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I agree with Boditza. Try reading the codes. As far as I remember there are only 2 or 3 codes relevent to pre heating, as follows.
P 1694- Glow plug indicator lamp/ wiring fault
P 1694 - Has another explanation that I have forgotten, but it is associated with the Glow plug indicator lamp
P 1635 - Mal function in glow plug heating and control circuits.

The first is pretty self explanitory and the third can account for one or more glow plugs open circuit, wiring problems or glow plug control module fubared or just about any other pre heater malfunction other than the indicator bulb/ wiring.

It is not unknown to have all four glow plugs fubared and the car will still start quite easilly in warm weather. They are easy to test - pull off the caps (they have a release clip) and they should read about 1 ohm tested to earth in situ with a meter. If you have any that are higher resistance they are fubared.

Glow plug control module sits in the big black triagular plastic box on top of your battery.You are looking for a finned aluminium box about 9cm by 4cm right in the bottom of the triangular box. Part is common to several GM cars and is often held in stock by a decent dealer. GM# 55354141

IIRC you have changed the battery, so will have disturbed this module? It may be worth getting it out and checking all contacts are good, but see what the codes indicate first. When I had this problem I noticed that on distrurbing this plastic box, my starting problem disappeared, but returned a week later.

PS 2.2Dti has no lift pump

greenfingers 79 wrote on 17. Jan 2011 at 14:52:

yes was my 2.2dti with starting problems and the lifter pump in the tank is exactly the same as posted pics for the 2.5td
20 min job Thumbs Up!

Shomething wrong here shurely? Undecided

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Kneepad Omega Knight Offline Posts: 1412 West Scotland Gender: Drives: '96 Omega 2.5 TD CDX Auto Saloon and '99 Omega V6 CD Auto Estate.	Re: bigdavy60 Reply #66 - 17. Jan 2011 at 23:30 See earlier post. BigDavy's Vauxhall man told him there was no lift pump in the tank.
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Reply #67 - 18. Jan 2011 at 14:32

Kneepad wrote on 17. Jan 2011 at 23:30:

See earlier post.

BigDavy's Vauxhall man told him there was no lift pump in the tank. Wink

hi guys i have opened the tank , guess what there is def no pump, we have a fuel gauge sender unit , a swirl pot , and a filter on the end of the pick up pipe which is totally covered in thick black gunge, it looks identical to the pictures posted for the 2.5 but no fuel pump in the housing or wiring i may add,however im going to clean the whole thing up and reasemble it surely this must have been restricting the fuel flow in some way,ill leave the car over night to see if this does the job,fingers tightly crossed. Smiley

ps is it possible some 2.2,s have the pump and some dont?

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Reply #68 - 18. Jan 2011 at 14:36

Shackeng wrote on 17. Jan 2011 at 23:09:

Fergy wrote

Quote:

I agree with Boditza. Try reading the codes. As far as I remember there are only 2 or 3 codes relevent to pre heating, as follows.
P 1694- Glow plug indicator lamp/ wiring fault
P 1694 - Has another explanation that I have forgotten, but it is associated with the Glow plug indicator lamp
P 1635 - Mal function in glow plug heating and control circuits.

The first is pretty self explanitory and the third can account for one or more glow plugs open circuit, wiring problems or glow plug control module fubared or just about any other pre heater malfunction other than the indicator bulb/ wiring.

It is not unknown to have all four glow plugs fubared and the car will still start quite easilly in warm weather. They are easy to test - pull off the caps (they have a release clip) and they should read about 1 ohm tested to earth in situ with a meter. If you have any that are higher resistance they are fubared.

Glow plug control module sits in the big black triagular plastic box on top of your battery.You are looking for a finned aluminium box about 9cm by 4cm right in the bottom of the triangular box. Part is common to several GM cars and is often held in stock by a decent dealer. GM# 55354141

IIRC you have changed the battery, so will have disturbed this module? It may be worth getting it out and checking all contacts are good, but see what the codes indicate first. When I had this problem I noticed that on distrurbing this plastic box, my starting problem disappeared, but returned a week later.

PS 2.2Dti has no lift pump

greenfingers 79 wrote on 17. Jan 2011 at 14:52:

yes was my 2.2dti with starting problems and the lifter pump in the tank is exactly the same as posted pics for the 2.5td
20 min job Thumbs Up!

Shomething wrong here shurely? Undecided

it gets stranger by the day ,no pump in my tank ,please see my reply to kneepad mmmm?

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greenfingers 79 Junior Member Offline Posts: 132	Re: bigdavy60 Reply #69 - 18. Jan 2011 at 16:00 ok maybe it werent a pump but looked similar to the 2.5td pictures. didnt completely strip just cleaned filter off the bottom. since ive done that there is a strange clicking noise coming from the tank or near it, primer pump perhaps but does not stop untill car is started?
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