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14. Jan 2011 at 22:22
 
i want to recondition my rear suspension with new wishbone bushes, anti roll bar bushes along with the droplink bushes, and donut bushes. apart from the donut bushes they all look good a bit craked but generaly good. no noises or something like that. what do you recomend? are the ones on the wishbone hard to remove? i figure that if i do this it won't need changing all its life and i want to get the tracking done once and for all . want to use only febi products, will those be ok?

i can't find verry easy the steering arms, although mine don't have any play
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if it aint broke dont fix it!
 
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Reply #2 - 14. Jan 2011 at 23:10
 
ive seen that.. i will figure it out ... what i don't know is how to remove the wishbone bushes themself Smiley.. any advice is welcomed  Undecided
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Reply #3 - 15. Jan 2011 at 06:38
 
I was also thinking about such a refurbish of rear suspension. But when i went at the parts shop and asked for wishbone bushes, the seller told me that he hadn't sold any of these in the past ten or so years, as long as he works there. He told nobody changes those bushes. So as those of mine miggy seem to be ok too and doesn't have any play, i've decided to change only donuts.
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Reply #4 - 15. Jan 2011 at 07:52
 
hmmm... im afraid not to do more harm than good... they are relatively cheap, only 30pounds for both wishbones
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Reply #5 - 15. Jan 2011 at 09:47
 
If it ain't broke don't fix it.

Been on here 2 and a half years, never seen anybody change the rear trailing arm bushes.

Change the donuts, check rear springs and shocks,If springs need changing consider new roll bar bushes at the same time, inspect the two rear bush blocks diff to chassis as these sometimes de laminate, and make sure the rear track rods are not seized so they can be set properly during set up. These adjust rear toe, which also affects rear camber and is the only adjustment available on the rear.

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Reply #6 - 15. Jan 2011 at 09:56
 
how do the rear bush that bloks diff to chasis look like and where are they located.. i thought to change them because on ice when slam the brakes the rear goes to the right and i saw here that the rear wishbone bushes might be the problem Smiley.


p.s. if i change the donut bushes do i need to reset the toe or camber??
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Boditza wrote on 15. Jan 2011 at 09:56:
how do the rear bush that bloks diff to chasis look like and where are they located.. i thought to change them because on ice when slam the brakes the rear goes to the right and i saw here that the rear wishbone bushes might be the problem Smiley.


p.s. if i change the donut bushes do i need to reset the toe or camber??

Two bushes are at the rear of the dif. And bolt to the chassis.  Roll Eyes

Where did you see the rear bushes being a problem, post the link.

It's better to do all the work before set up, as you said previously. Huh
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chrisgixer wrote on 15. Jan 2011 at 10:36:
Boditza wrote on 15. Jan 2011 at 09:56:
how do the rear bush that bloks diff to chasis look like and where are they located.. i thought to change them because on ice when slam the brakes the rear goes to the right and i saw here that the rear wishbone bushes might be the problem Smiley.


p.s. if i change the donut bushes do i need to reset the toe or camber??

Two bushes are at the rear of the dif. And bolt to the chassis.  Roll Eyes

Where did you see the rear bushes being a problem, post the link.

It's better to do all the work before set up, as you said previously. Huh


someone was complaining abnut his brakes pulling to one side although nothing was wrong with the car.. till someone said that the rear wishbone bushes might be the problem. i'll look in epc and see what those bushes look like, are they expensive??
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Reply #9 - 15. Jan 2011 at 21:05
 
[quote author=424F4449545A41200 link=1295043752/6#6 date=1295085366]how do the rear bush that bloks diff to chasis look like and where are they located.. i thought to change them because on ice when slam the brakes the rear goes to the right and i saw here that the rear wishbone bushes might be the problem Smiley.


p.s. if i change the donut bushes do i need to reset the toe or camber??[/quote]

No need if only changing donut bushes.   Thumbs Up!
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Reply #10 - 15. Jan 2011 at 21:15
 
thank you for your help everyone... i will change only donut bushes and leave the rest alone Smiley
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Reply #11 - 15. Jan 2011 at 21:25
 
Boditza wrote on 15. Jan 2011 at 15:42:
chrisgixer wrote on 15. Jan 2011 at 10:36:
Boditza wrote on 15. Jan 2011 at 09:56:
how do the rear bush that bloks diff to chasis look like and where are they located.. i thought to change them because on ice when slam the brakes the rear goes to the right and i saw here that the rear wishbone bushes might be the problem Smiley.


p.s. if i change the donut bushes do i need to reset the toe or camber??

Two bushes are at the rear of the dif. And bolt to the chassis.  Roll Eyes

Where did you see the rear bushes being a problem, post the link.

It's better to do all the work before set up, as you said previously. Huh


someone was complaining abnut his brakes pulling to one side although nothing was wrong with the car.. till someone said that the rear wishbone bushes might be the problem. i'll look in epc and see what those bushes look like, are they expensive??

So somebody, unknown, said it might be, "MIGHT" be.....? You've checked them, found no play, and still want to replace them...because the rear moves under hard braking on ice...?  Sorry Bo, but I'm struggling to see the logic.

No idea how much they are, as said they are not a common failure so there's not likely to be much of a knowledge base, unless Markdtm has some experience with them...?  But I thought I saw mention of £30 earlier  Undecided.  ?


Anyway, we might have to accept that nobody knows the answers to these questions, although i'm interested to see how you get on.
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Reply #12 - 15. Jan 2011 at 21:31
 
this was the link to the brakes pulling left from rear wishbone bush but now i see that he was talking about the front wishbone and the bush faceing the back of the car... sorry for the confusion, and as i said i will leave them alone, and do only the donut bush
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1292939226/15
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Reply #13 - 15. Jan 2011 at 22:03
 
Boditza wrote on 15. Jan 2011 at 21:31:
this was the link to the brakes pulling left from rear wishbone bush but now i see that he was talking about the front wishbone and the bush faceing the back of the car... sorry for the confusion, and as i said i will leave them alone, and do only the donut bush
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1292939226/15

Yes the terminology is confusing.

For info,

Suspension arms at the front are refered to as "wishbones", with a front and rear(rearward) bush within them.

Suspension arms at the rear of the car are referred to as "trailing arms".

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