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smirnoff Newbie Offline Posts: 3	2.5 td. or 2.2 dti. ?????????? 15. Jan 2011 at 11:41 Hello to all I'm think of getting Omega but due to need it as my daily drive the economy is on my mind so. ...... Do I go for the 2.5 td with bmw motor in it or 2.2 dti with vauxhall motor ???????????
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Andy B Over Active Poster Offline Posts: 21988 Bury Lancs Gender: Drives: 1999 3.0 Elite auto/TDM	Re: 2.5 td. or 2.2 dti. ?????????? Reply #1 - 15. Jan 2011 at 11:46 decisions decisions 2.2 in only available with 3 pedals whereas a 2.5 also comes with 2 .... that might be a consideration.
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Reply #2 - 15. Jan 2011 at 12:12

if I where to pick a tractor, be 2.5TD. 2.2 DTi is rough, seen Transits pull away with more refinement. Its not really bad engine, just the 6 pots of the 2.5 make it much smoother.

Also worth considering is 2.5TD will generally be pre-facelift, 2.2 DTi was fitted in 2001, so if your after newer examples it has to be 2.2, plus as Andy mentioned, they are all manuals.

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Seth Omega Baron Offline If there's a 'system' - play it ... ! Posts: 4236 South Wales Valleys Gender: Drives: 1999 2.5TD GLS Estate - Manual jobbie Woohoo !!!!!	Re: 2.5 td. or 2.2 dti. ?????????? Reply #3 - 15. Jan 2011 at 12:34 It's gotta be the 2.5TD!
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greenfingers 79 Junior Member Offline Posts: 132	Re: 2.5 td. or 2.2 dti. ?????????? Reply #4 - 15. Jan 2011 at 12:55 2.2dti has more torque
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greenfingers 79 Junior Member Offline Posts: 132	Re: 2.5 td. or 2.2 dti. ?????????? Reply #5 - 15. Jan 2011 at 12:59 as for tunies comment, he must have seen a bad example of a 2.2dti as most run sweet as a nut! i average 45 mpg on the motorway in mine
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Andy B Over Active Poster Offline Posts: 21988 Bury Lancs Gender: Drives: 1999 3.0 Elite auto/TDM	Re: 2.5 td. or 2.2 dti. ?????????? Reply #6 - 15. Jan 2011 at 13:01 greenfingers 79 wrote on 15. Jan 2011 at 12:55: 2.2dti has more torque but less bhp & less cylinders
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greenfingers 79 Junior Member Offline Posts: 132	Re: 2.5 td. or 2.2 dti. ?????????? Reply #7 - 15. Jan 2011 at 13:05 indeed but a better engine i think as why would they have changed it from a bmw lump? 2.2dti does burn a bit of oil though but apparently was a design fault with a too high gloss finish somewhere inside the pots
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Reply #8 - 15. Jan 2011 at 13:09

greenfingers 79 wrote on 15. Jan 2011 at 13:05:

indeed but a better engine i think as why would they have changed it from a bmw lump? ......

But does newer mean better? Look at the finish inside a facelift car, that's definitely not better. I think it's just that manufacturers woud like their own engines in a car rather than rely on someone else.
I've only ever driven a 2.5 a couple of miles so can't comment on which is best. For me though I'd immediately dismiss the 2.2 cos it only comes with 3 pedals. Thumbs Up!

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greenfingers 79 Junior Member Offline Posts: 132	Re: 2.5 td. or 2.2 dti. ?????????? Reply #9 - 15. Jan 2011 at 13:12 im going to be biased with the 2.2dti as i drive one and i definately prefer 3 pedals to 2 all day long, for 1 better mpg and more fun to drive
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Andy B Over Active Poster Offline Posts: 21988 Bury Lancs Gender: Drives: 1999 3.0 Elite auto/TDM	Re: 2.5 td. or 2.2 dti. ?????????? Reply #10 - 15. Jan 2011 at 13:19 greenfingers 79 wrote on 15. Jan 2011 at 13:12: ..... and more fun to drive maybe for a 'sports car' but for a tonne & three quarter diseasal barge?
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Shackeng Omega Knight Offline Posts: 1640 North Wiltshire Gender: Drives: 2001 3.2 Elite Auto Saloon, 1999 Omega 2.5Td CDX Auto Estate. Trade Card. Halfords TC.	Re: 2.5 td. or 2.2 dti. ?????????? Reply #11 - 15. Jan 2011 at 13:44 I drive a chipped '99 MFL 2.5TD, and it is NOT economical. I only get about 26 locally, and 33 on a run. I still love driving it however. HTH
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tunnie Over Active Poster Offline Posts: 22520 London, W3 Gender: Drives: 2.2 CD (LPG'd) & BMW R1200 GS	Re: 2.5 td. or 2.2 dti. ?????????? Reply #12 - 15. Jan 2011 at 13:51 greenfingers 79 wrote on 15. Jan 2011 at 12:59: as for tunies comment, he must have seen a bad example of a 2.2dti as most run sweet as a nut! i average 45 mpg on the motorway in mine See quite a few of them in London, just pulling away the London Taxi's sound better!
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Reply #13 - 15. Jan 2011 at 14:02

greenfingers 79 wrote on 15. Jan 2011 at 13:05:

indeed but a better engine i think as why would they have changed it from a bmw lump?
2.2dti does burn a bit of oil though but apparently was a design fault with a too high gloss finish somewhere inside the pots

Cost. All changes are about cost.

Both have their pros and cons. The 2.5TD REALLY REALLY REALLY does need very regular oil changes. The 2.2DTi just REALLY needs regular oil changes (around 3k for both of them).

Personally, I think the TD is the better engine, but it needs chipping. DTi is only available as manual, but I think that the auto in the TD holds it back - its a much more pleasant car with a manual box.

Economy between a 2.2 and a 2.5 (chipped - std 2.5 is a dog) manual is around the same. The 2.5TD auto (chipped) is around 33mpg day to day, high thrities on a run (the chipping confuses the onboard MPG reading, so you have to do mpg the old fashioned way).

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Reply #14 - 15. Jan 2011 at 14:10

TheBoy wrote on 15. Jan 2011 at 14:02:

greenfingers 79 wrote on 15. Jan 2011 at 13:05:

indeed but a better engine i think as why would they have changed it from a bmw lump?
2.2dti does burn a bit of oil though but apparently was a design fault with a too high gloss finish somewhere inside the pots

Cost. All changes are about cost.

Both have their pros and cons. The 2.5TD REALLY REALLY REALLY does need very regular oil changes. The 2.2DTi just REALLY needs regular oil changes (around 3k for both of them).

Personally, I think the TD is the better engine, but it needs chipping. DTi is only available as manual, but I think that the auto in the TD holds it back - its a much more pleasant car with a manual box.

Economy between a 2.2 and a 2.5 (chipped - std 2.5 is a dog) manual is around the same. The 2.5TD auto (chipped) is around 33mpg day to day, high thrities on a run (the chipping confuses the onboard MPG reading, so you have to do mpg the old fashioned way).

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