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Re: Horizon - Questioning of Science
Reply #30 - 25. Jan 2011 at 12:14

Olympia5776 wrote on 25. Jan 2011 at 12:11:

Desperate Den wrote on 25. Jan 2011 at 11:51:

Banjax wrote on 25. Jan 2011 at 11:36:

I'll stick with NASA for now Thumbs Up!

Yes, a fair enough position BJ.

What is the answer to mitigating human involvement and continued behaviour in this change?

Perhaps , as a start , those who vilify non believers and escpouse the concept that man should minimise his , or her , carbon footprint should consider the hypocracy of driving around in a large V6 automatic saloon . Wink

ahh - you see, just because I accept us to be at fault, doesn't mean I care enough to do anything about it Thumbs Up!

common mistake Roll Eyes

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Re: Horizon - Questioning of Science
Reply #31 - 25. Jan 2011 at 12:19

Olympia5776 wrote on 25. Jan 2011 at 12:11:

Desperate Den wrote on 25. Jan 2011 at 11:51:

Banjax wrote on 25. Jan 2011 at 11:36:

I'll stick with NASA for now Thumbs Up!

Yes, a fair enough position BJ.

What is the answer to mitigating human involvement and continued behaviour in this change?

Perhaps , as a start , those who vilify non believers and espouse the concept that man should minimise his , or her , carbon footprint should consider the hypocracy of driving around in a large V6 automatic saloon . Wink

In that case D as I'm the owner (and occasional driver) of a Desmond, my conscience is clear. Grin

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Re: Horizon - Questioning of Science
Reply #32 - 25. Jan 2011 at 12:24

Desperate Den wrote on 25. Jan 2011 at 12:19:

Olympia5776 wrote on 25. Jan 2011 at 12:11:

Desperate Den wrote on 25. Jan 2011 at 11:51:

Banjax wrote on 25. Jan 2011 at 11:36:

I'll stick with NASA for now Thumbs Up!

Yes, a fair enough position BJ.

What is the answer to mitigating human involvement and continued behaviour in this change?

Perhaps , as a start , those who vilify non believers and espouse the concept that man should minimise his , or her , carbon footprint should consider the hypocracy of driving around in a large V6 automatic saloon . Wink

In that case D as I'm the owner (and occasional driver) of a Desmond, my conscience is clear. Grin

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Re: Horizon - Questioning of Science
Reply #33 - 25. Jan 2011 at 12:25

Olympia5776 wrote on 25. Jan 2011 at 12:11:

Desperate Den wrote on 25. Jan 2011 at 11:51:

Banjax wrote on 25. Jan 2011 at 11:36:

I'll stick with NASA for now Thumbs Up!

Yes, a fair enough position BJ.

What is the answer to mitigating human involvement and continued behaviour in this change?

Perhaps , as a start , those who vilify non believers and espouse the concept that man should minimise his , or her , carbon footprint should consider the hypocracy of driving around in a large V6 automatic saloon . Wink

But you see we may not be perfect, but I for me do the following to offset my V6 ownership.

I drive far less than ever before. I recycle everything I can. I use energy efficient light bulbs throughout my home, with all appliances fully turned off at night. The central heating thermostat is turned down to operate at a temperature as low as my health may take. All radiators have thermostats. My windows are double glazed. I buy food in the least packaging possible, and cook on mass the meals I eat from fresh ingredients, and rarely have 'ready meals'. I rarely take holidays abroad now using aircraft.

Oh, and I tend to buy old cars and keep them for some years, and not new ones expensively produced using huge amounts of energy!

That's me then, how about you? Wink

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Re: Horizon - Questioning of Science
Reply #34 - 25. Jan 2011 at 12:33

News today:

Prof John Beddington [the Government's chief scientific adviser] admitted the impact of global warming had been exaggerated by some scientists and condemned climate researchers who refused to publish data which formed the basis of their reports into global warming.

In an interview, Prof Beddington, called for a new era of honesty and responsibility from the environmental community and said scientists should be less hostile to sceptics who questioned man-made global warming.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/climatechange/7081039/John-Beddingt...

What he said. Wink

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Re: Horizon - Questioning of Science
Reply #35 - 25. Jan 2011 at 12:36

Lizzie Zoom wrote on 25. Jan 2011 at 12:25:

Olympia5776 wrote on 25. Jan 2011 at 12:11:

Desperate Den wrote on 25. Jan 2011 at 11:51:

Banjax wrote on 25. Jan 2011 at 11:36:

I'll stick with NASA for now Thumbs Up!

Yes, a fair enough position BJ.

What is the answer to mitigating human involvement and continued behaviour in this change?

Perhaps , as a start , those who vilify non believers and espouse the concept that man should minimise his , or her , carbon footprint should consider the hypocracy of driving around in a large V6 automatic saloon . Wink

But you see we may not be perfect, but I for me do the following to offset my V6 ownership.

I drive far less than ever before. I recycle everything I can. I use energy efficient light bulbs throughout my home, with all appliances fully turned off at night. The central heating thermostat is turned down to operate at a temperature as low as my health may take. All radiators have thermostats. My windows are double glazed. I buy food in the least packaging possible, and cook on mass the meals I eat from fresh ingredients, and rarely have 'ready meals'. I rarely take holidays abroad now using aircraft.

Oh, and I tend to buy old cars and keep them for some years, and not new ones expensively produced using huge amounts of energy!

That's me then, how about you? Wink

Yeah , I do all that too..........

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Re: Horizon - Questioning of Science
Reply #36 - 25. Jan 2011 at 12:42

Lizzie Zoom wrote on 25. Jan 2011 at 12:25:

Olympia5776 wrote on 25. Jan 2011 at 12:11:

Desperate Den wrote on 25. Jan 2011 at 11:51:

Banjax wrote on 25. Jan 2011 at 11:36:

I'll stick with NASA for now Thumbs Up!

Yes, a fair enough position BJ.

What is the answer to mitigating human involvement and continued behaviour in this change?

Perhaps , as a start , those who vilify non believers and espouse the concept that man should minimise his , or her , carbon footprint should consider the hypocracy of driving around in a large V6 automatic saloon . Wink

But you see we may not be perfect, but I for me do the following to offset my V6 ownership.

I drive far less than ever before. I recycle everything I can. I use energy efficient light bulbs throughout my home, with all appliances fully turned off at night. The central heating thermostat is turned down to operate at a temperature as low as my health may take. All radiators have thermostats. My windows are double glazed. I buy food in the least packaging possible, and cook on mass the meals I eat from fresh ingredients, and rarely have 'ready meals'. I rarely take holidays abroad now using aircraft.

Oh, and I tend to buy old cars and keep them for some years, and not new ones expensively produced using huge amounts of energy!

That's me then, how about you? Wink

That sounds quite similar to myself, but I dont call it reducing my carbon footprint, I call it being skint. Wink

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Re: Horizon - Questioning of Science
Reply #37 - 25. Jan 2011 at 12:45

Olympia5776 wrote on 25. Jan 2011 at 12:36:

Lizzie Zoom wrote on 25. Jan 2011 at 12:25:

Olympia5776 wrote on 25. Jan 2011 at 12:11:

Desperate Den wrote on 25. Jan 2011 at 11:51:

Banjax wrote on 25. Jan 2011 at 11:36:

I'll stick with NASA for now Thumbs Up!

Yes, a fair enough position BJ.

What is the answer to mitigating human involvement and continued behaviour in this change?

Perhaps , as a start , those who vilify non believers and espouse the concept that man should minimise his , or her , carbon footprint should consider the hypocracy of driving around in a large V6 automatic saloon . Wink

But you see we may not be perfect, but I for me do the following to offset my V6 ownership.

I drive far less than ever before. I recycle everything I can. I use energy efficient light bulbs throughout my home, with all appliances fully turned off at night. The central heating thermostat is turned down to operate at a temperature as low as my health may take. All radiators have thermostats. My windows are double glazed. I buy food in the least packaging possible, and cook on mass the meals I eat from fresh ingredients, and rarely have 'ready meals'. I rarely take holidays abroad now using aircraft.

Oh, and I tend to buy old cars and keep them for some years, and not new ones expensively produced using huge amounts of energy!

That's me then, how about you? Wink

Yeah , I do all that too..........

Good, so there is two of us doing it............I mean the above!! Cheesy

Seriously though I know that one day big petrol engines will be considered something our environment cannot take, but hopefully once I have become far too old to drive!! Until then I will do my bit, but hold on to big efficient engines:

I am hoping though that they come up with a great method of futuristic propulsion that is acceptable but can still whisk you up to high top speeds!! Cheesy

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Re: Horizon - Questioning of Science
Reply #38 - 25. Jan 2011 at 13:02

Science : "any system of knowledge that is concerned with the physical world and its phenomena and that entails unbiased observations and systematic experimentation" (Encyclopaedia Britannica.)

So, not science, then. We're talking about politics, pure and simple. Science is about developing our understanding of that which we have observed to be true, not trying for various reasons to promote a theory that hasn't been backed up by proper observations.

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Marks DTM Calib Administrator Offline Ex Member Posts: 25671 Northern Hemisphere Gender: Drives: Astra J, Mum Bus, Dexta Tractor, 108 DMU wip	Re: Horizon - Questioning of Science Reply #39 - 25. Jan 2011 at 13:10 As I have commented before, the apparant rise in global temperatures is due to the lack of pirates: http://www.google.com/trends?q=global+warming%2C+pirates&ctab=0&geo=all&date=mtd... So its simple, its all the fault of pirates!
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Re: Horizon - Questioning of Science
Reply #40 - 25. Jan 2011 at 13:16

Marks DTM Calib wrote on 25. Jan 2011 at 13:10:

As I have commented before, the apparant rise in global temperatures is due to the lack of pirates:

http://www.google.com/trends?q=global+warming%2C+pirates&ctab=0&geo=all&date=mtd...

So its simple, its all the fault of pirates!

Glad that's been explained Thumbs Up!

Can we move on now? Grin

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Re: Horizon - Questioning of Science
Reply #41 - 25. Jan 2011 at 13:21

Marks DTM Calib wrote on 25. Jan 2011 at 13:10:

As I have commented before, the apparant rise in global temperatures is due to the lack of pirates:

http://www.google.com/trends?q=global+warming%2C+pirates&ctab=0&geo=all&date=mtd...

So its simple, its all the fault of pirates!

PMSL. Fantastic.

Now the Somalis have become more sophisticated by using caputered big vessels to capture "new meat" and also travelling much much further than ever before we can expect global warming to decrease. We are all saved for just a few £billions paid annually spread across the nations of the globe! That explains why nothing has been done to eradicate the pirates.

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Re: Horizon - Questioning of Science
Reply #42 - 25. Jan 2011 at 15:54

Kevin Wood wrote on 25. Jan 2011 at 13:02:

Science : "any system of knowledge that is concerned with the physical world and its phenomena and that entails unbiased observations and systematic experimentation" (Encyclopaedia Britannica.)

So, not science, then. We're talking about politics, pure and simple. Science is about developing our understanding of that which we have observed to be true, not trying for various reasons to promote a theory that hasn't been backed up by proper observations.

Kevin

precisely, remove the politics from the facts, the raw data doesn't know right-wing from tree-hugger Thumbs Up!

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Re: Horizon - Questioning of Science
Reply #43 - 25. Jan 2011 at 15:58

Banjax wrote on 25. Jan 2011 at 15:54:

Kevin Wood wrote on 25. Jan 2011 at 13:02:

Science : "any system of knowledge that is concerned with the physical world and its phenomena and that entails unbiased observations and systematic experimentation" (Encyclopaedia Britannica.)

So, not science, then. We're talking about politics, pure and simple. Science is about developing our understanding of that which we have observed to be true, not trying for various reasons to promote a theory that hasn't been backed up by proper observations.

Kevin

precisely, remove the politics from the facts, the raw data doesn't know right-wing from tree-hugger Thumbs Up!

I wish, but I'm not holding my breath. Sad

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Re: Horizon - Questioning of Science
Reply #44 - 25. Jan 2011 at 16:27

Albs wrote on 25. Jan 2011 at 12:42:

Lizzie Zoom wrote on 25. Jan 2011 at 12:25:

Olympia5776 wrote on 25. Jan 2011 at 12:11:

Desperate Den wrote on 25. Jan 2011 at 11:51:

Banjax wrote on 25. Jan 2011 at 11:36:

I'll stick with NASA for now Thumbs Up!

Yes, a fair enough position BJ.

What is the answer to mitigating human involvement and continued behaviour in this change?

Perhaps , as a start , those who vilify non believers and espouse the concept that man should minimise his , or her , carbon footprint should consider the hypocracy of driving around in a large V6 automatic saloon . Wink

But you see we may not be perfect, but I for me do the following to offset my V6 ownership.

I drive far less than ever before. I recycle everything I can. I use energy efficient light bulbs throughout my home, with all appliances fully turned off at night. The central heating thermostat is turned down to operate at a temperature as low as my health may take. All radiators have thermostats. My windows are double glazed. I buy food in the least packaging possible, and cook on mass the meals I eat from fresh ingredients, and rarely have 'ready meals'. I rarely take holidays abroad now using aircraft.

Oh, and I tend to buy old cars and keep them for some years, and not new ones expensively produced using huge amounts of energy!

That's me then, how about you? Wink

That sounds quite similar to myself, but I dont call it reducing my carbon footprint, I call it being skint. Wink

Well Albs I must admit being skint does make it very easy for me to be fugal!! Roll Eyes

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