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Pete Elite

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Dead Battery, Door Lock Won't Open!!!
08. Feb 2011 at 14:09

Hi All,
Unfortunately I've not been well for a while so haven't used the car until today and yes you guessed it Lips Sealed

, battery flat and can't open driver's door lock Sad

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I've tried all the usual recommendations such as turning the key to almost breaking point even whilst trying to open the door but won't budge Sad

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Can anyone suggest a way to charge up the battery from underneath the engine compartment.

PS. I can open the boot

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Any help much appreciated.

Pete Thumbs Up!

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Lazydocker Omega King Offline Victim of Pinky's Power Trip! Posts: 11336 Woodbridge, Suffolk Gender: Drives: 2003 3.2 Elite Estate LPG Converted, inspected and Certified	Re: Dead Battery, Door Lock Won't Open!!! Reply #1 - 08. Feb 2011 at 14:11 If you can open the boot, you could forge the through load hatch open, drop the rear seats and climb through to pop the bonnet
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Andy B

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Re: Dead Battery, Door Lock Won't Open!!!
Reply #2 - 08. Feb 2011 at 14:15

Pete Elite wrote on 08. Feb 2011 at 14:09:

Hi All,
Unfortunately I've not been well for a while so haven't used the car until today and yes you guessed it Lips Sealed

, battery flat and can't open driver's door lock Sad

.

I've tried all the usual recommendations such as turning the key to almost breaking point even whilst trying to open the door but won't budge Sad

.

Can anyone suggest a way to charge up the battery from underneath the engine compartment.

PS. I can open the boot

.

Any help much appreciated.

Pete Thumbs Up!

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aside from the lock being siezed from lack of use, using the key in the driver's door lock will open a deadlocked door with a flat battery .... honest!
If you really can't get into the car via the driver's door lock, but the boot will open, you can apply power to the boot light terminals. Flip the light out of it's recess, and put 12v across the wires. You'll be able to use your key fob then.
Or ..... open the boot, flip the ski-hatch down - it's possible, I just can't remember now how to do it, it's the same as a Senator's was & I've done it on one of them - drop a seat back & crawl all the wy to the bonnet release. Grin

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Pete Elite Omega Knight Offline Posts: 1903 Uxbridge, Middlesex Gender: Drives: 30L Elite Auto Saloon(96)	Re: Dead Battery, Door Lock Won't Open!!! Reply #3 - 08. Feb 2011 at 14:16 Thanks for that Lazydocker, i could try that but will have to find someone a little leaner than me to get through the gap . Cheers, Pete .
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Andy B Over Active Poster Offline Posts: 21988 Bury Lancs Gender: Drives: 1999 3.0 Elite auto/TDM	Re: Dead Battery, Door Lock Won't Open!!! Reply #4 - 08. Feb 2011 at 14:18 Pete Elite wrote on 08. Feb 2011 at 14:16: Thanks for that Lazydocker, i could try that but will have to find someone a little leaner than me to get through the gap . Cheers, Pete . You don't crawl through the ski-flap, you reach through & drop a seat back.
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Pete Elite

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Re: Dead Battery, Door Lock Won't Open!!!
Reply #5 - 08. Feb 2011 at 14:23

Andy B wrote on 08. Feb 2011 at 14:15:

Pete Elite wrote on 08. Feb 2011 at 14:09:

Hi All,
Unfortunately I've not been well for a while so haven't used the car until today and yes you guessed it Lips Sealed

, battery flat and can't open driver's door lock Sad

.

I've tried all the usual recommendations such as turning the key to almost breaking point even whilst trying to open the door but won't budge Sad

.

Can anyone suggest a way to charge up the battery from underneath the engine compartment.

PS. I can open the boot

.

Any help much appreciated.

Pete Thumbs Up!

.

aside from the lock being siezed from lack of use, using the key in the driver's door lock will open a deadlocked door with a flat battery .... honest!
If you really can't get into the car via the driver's door lock, but the boot will open, you can apply power to the boot light terminals.

Flip the light out of it's recess, and put 12v across the wires

. You'll be able to use your key fob then.
Or ..... open the boot, flip the ski-hatch down - it's possible, I just can't remember now how to do it, it's the same as a Senator's was & I've done it on one of them - drop a seat back & crawl all the wy to the bonnet release. Grin

Thanks Andy for your suggestions and have tried connecting my charger up to the light wires in the boot but door still won't open on the Fob, door lock has been well sprayed with WD40 and moves freely Sad

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Cheers,
Pete Thumbs Up!

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Pete Elite

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Re: Dead Battery, Door Lock Won't Open!!!
Reply #6 - 08. Feb 2011 at 14:26

Andy B wrote on 08. Feb 2011 at 14:18:

Pete Elite wrote on 08. Feb 2011 at 14:16:

Thanks for that Lazydocker, i could try that but will have to find someone a little leaner than me to get through the gap Grin

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Cheers,
Pete Thumbs Up!

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You don't crawl through the ski-flap

, you reach through & drop a seat back. Grin

I KNOW THAT
i was just testing you Embarrassed

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Andy B

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Re: Dead Battery, Door Lock Won't Open!!!
Reply #7 - 08. Feb 2011 at 14:26

Pete Elite wrote on 08. Feb 2011 at 14:23:

....
Thanks Andy for your suggestions and have tried connecting my charger up to the light wires in the boot but door still won't open on the Fob ....

I wonder if there was still enough charge in the battery to pop a fuse if you caught the live against the body when removing the light Undecided

I've got in my dadlocked car that way so I know it should work. But I've also used a key ..... eventually! Grin

You need to be borrowing a small child from freinds or family! Grin

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Pete Elite

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Re: Dead Battery, Door Lock Won't Open!!!
Reply #8 - 08. Feb 2011 at 14:29

Andy B wrote on 08. Feb 2011 at 14:26:

Pete Elite wrote on 08. Feb 2011 at 14:23:

....
Thanks Andy for your suggestions and have tried connecting my charger up to the light wires in the boot but door still won't open on the Fob ....

I wonder if there was still enough charge in the battery to pop a fuse if you caught the live against the body when removing the light Undecided

I've got in my dadlocked car that way so I know it should work. But I've also used a key ..... eventually! Grin

You need to be

borrowing a small child

from freinds or family! Grin

I don't think i can borrow any more after i broke the last one Grin

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Andy B Over Active Poster Offline Posts: 21988 Bury Lancs Gender: Drives: 1999 3.0 Elite auto/TDM	Re: Dead Battery, Door Lock Won't Open!!! Reply #9 - 08. Feb 2011 at 14:59 Pete Elite wrote on 08. Feb 2011 at 14:29: ..... I don't think i can borrow any more after i broke the last one .
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alank46

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Re: Dead Battery, Door Lock Won't Open!!!
Reply #10 - 08. Feb 2011 at 18:16

Many chargers will not charge unless connected to a source of at least 8V or so. That is, if your battery is really flat, they will not charge it. You need to apply 12V from a battery to the boot light.
Alan

Pete Elite wrote on 08. Feb 2011 at 14:23:

Andy B wrote on 08. Feb 2011 at 14:15:

Pete Elite wrote on 08. Feb 2011 at 14:09:

Hi All,
Unfortunately I've not been well for a while so haven't used the car until today and yes you guessed it Lips Sealed

, battery flat and can't open driver's door lock Sad

.

I've tried all the usual recommendations such as turning the key to almost breaking point even whilst trying to open the door but won't budge Sad

.

Can anyone suggest a way to charge up the battery from underneath the engine compartment.

PS. I can open the boot

.

Any help much appreciated.

Pete Thumbs Up!

.

aside from the lock being siezed from lack of use, using the key in the driver's door lock will open a deadlocked door with a flat battery .... honest!
If you really can't get into the car via the driver's door lock, but the boot will open, you can apply power to the boot light terminals.

Flip the light out of it's recess, and put 12v across the wires

. You'll be able to use your key fob then.
Or ..... open the boot, flip the ski-hatch down - it's possible, I just can't remember now how to do it, it's the same as a Senator's was & I've done it on one of them - drop a seat back & crawl all the wy to the bonnet release. Grin

Thanks Andy for your suggestions and have tried connecting my charger up to the light wires in the boot but door still won't open on the Fob, door lock has been well sprayed with WD40 and moves freely Sad

.

Cheers,
Pete Thumbs Up!

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pauls Junior Member Offline Posts: 138 hayes middlesex Gender: Drives: 2001 omega estate 2.6 v6 cdx auto	Re: Dead Battery, Door Lock Won't Open!!! Reply #11 - 08. Feb 2011 at 18:24 Hello i live just down the road if i can help. Might be able to squeeze thru the back for you
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Andy B

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Re: Dead Battery, Door Lock Won't Open!!!
Reply #12 - 08. Feb 2011 at 18:30

alank46 wrote on 08. Feb 2011 at 18:16:

Many chargers will not charge unless connected to a source of at least 8V or so. That is, if your battery is really flat, they will not charge it. You need to apply 12V from a battery to the boot light.
Alan .......

That's the case for modern 'smart chargers' ie CTek, Optimate but an old fashioned 'ordinary' charger should have no problems giving 12v enough for the central locking to working.

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ballcock50 Junior Member Offline Posts: 216 South Wales Gender: Drives: Elite Estate	Re: Dead Battery, Door Lock Won't Open!!! Reply #13 - 08. Feb 2011 at 21:15 Jack the car up slightly and connect a live feed to the starter motor solenoid and earth the engine use the fob job done
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Pete Elite Omega Knight Offline Posts: 1903 Uxbridge, Middlesex Gender: Drives: 30L Elite Auto Saloon(96)	Re: Dead Battery, Door Lock Won't Open!!! Reply #14 - 14. Feb 2011 at 17:54 Thanks all for your suggestions and offers of help but am glad to say i managed to get through the boot and flip the bonnet . Cheers, Pete .
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