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28. Mar 2011 at 19:42
 
From 1935 to 1939 there was a tremendous movement within the transport industry to streamline.  With Steam locomotives, and the trains that went with them, they were streamlined to gain a speed advantage and to look futuristict.

First came the streamliners of the LNER in 1935; Nigel Gresley's A4 Pacific passenger express locomotives.

This is one example of a preserved A4, LNER No. 4464, BR 60019 Bittern built in 1937at Doncaster

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Also preserved A4 Mallard LNER 4468, BR 60022, built in 1937/38 at Doncaster, set the world speed record for a steam engine at 126 mph on 3rd July 1938 (my father was on the train!)

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Not to be outdone William Stanier, CME at the LMS introduced the Coronation Class of Pacific passenger express locomotive in 1937 to complete with the LNER expresses to the North.

This beauty is the preserved example LMS 6229, BR 46229, Duchess of Hamilton, built in 1938 at Crewe, rebuilt into a non-streamliner in 1947, but has now been restored into streamline status by the National Railway Museum - beautiful!! Kiss Kiss Kiss Cool Cool Cool

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The GWR mounted a feeble attempt at streamlining in 1935 after Gresley had introduced his version, on one Castle and one King class of locomotives; but they are not worth talking about! 

Well, what do you think?! GWR Castle 5005 Manorbier Castle after emerging from the Swindon works in 1935 Grin Grin

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Now streamlined road vehicles also started to appear:

A Piece Silver Arrow Car 1933 (well the USA was always ahead of us on this 'science'!! Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes)

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A Lancia Aprilia 1938:

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Well what can you add to the "Streamline" story pre-WW2 - or later?! Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Wink
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Reply #1 - 30. Mar 2011 at 09:34
 
So the subject of streamlining engineering history on locomotives, cars, etc attracts no comments? Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

Oh well, fair enough, I will stay clear of "engineering" subjects on this Car Forum!! Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Thumbs Up! Thumbs Up!

Funny old world!! Tongue Tongue Grin Grin Grin Grin Wink
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Reply #2 - 30. Mar 2011 at 10:29
 
Lizzie, I'll come to your rescue!

You're obviously interested in early streamlining attempts and engineering in general, so you'll probably already be aware of the maverick American designer and engineer Buckminster Fuller.
His 'Dymaxion' car, a 20 foot long teardrop shaped aerodynamic wonder, is in the following youtube video....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlLZE23EJKs

P.S - Is the Duchess of Hamilton at York Railway Museum?
When I was there last (early 2008), I'm sure it wasn't, because if it had been, I'd have spent hours just staring at it! That is FABULOUS!  Smiley
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Reply #3 - 30. Mar 2011 at 11:45
 
tonyyeb wrote on 30. Mar 2011 at 10:29:
Lizzie, I'll come to your rescue!

You're obviously interested in early streamlining attempts and engineering in general, so you'll probably already be aware of the maverick American designer and engineer Buckminster Fuller.
His 'Dymaxion' car, a 20 foot long teardrop shaped aerodynamic wonder, is in the following youtube video....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlLZE23EJKs

P.S - Is the Duchess of Hamilton at York Railway Museum?
When I was there last (early 2008), I'm sure it wasn't, because if it had been, I'd have spent hours just staring at it! That is FABULOUS!  Smiley


Thanks Tony! Thumbs Up! Thumbs Up! Thumbs Up! Thumbs Up!

I thought somebody must want to contribute on this interesting subject, and you have come up with an early beauty!! Cool Cool Cool Thumbs Up!

No, I must admit I knew nothing about Buckminster Fuller, but his car has intrigued me and I must research him further! Cheesy Cheesy  Thanks again! Thumbs Up! Thumbs Up! Thumbs Up!

As for the Duchess of Hamilton I understand she is back in York as a star exhibit, as in the picture I posted, following her re-streamlining.  Is she not beautiful and stunning?!  As you say she IS FABULOUS, and like you I just kept on looking at the pictures I could find on her.  All my 1930 photographs of these wonderful streamliners are in black and white, so to see her in the form she is in in full LMS crimson lake is quite something! Kiss Kiss Kiss Kiss Kiss Kiss Wink
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Reply #4 - 30. Mar 2011 at 16:41
 
A lot of the early streamlining attempts were really not much more than guesswork, as later drag co-efficient tests confirmed.
As stylistic exercises go though, I love 'em.
Always liked the Chrysler Airflow -
http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.thelincolnstudio.com/1934_Airfl...

I beleive they were built in Britain for a while, too.

Another impossible to ignore early streamliner would be Hans Ledwinka's Tatra T77.....

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://files.conceptcarz.com/img/Tatra/38-...

A mighty V8 sits beyond the rear axle!  Grin
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Reply #5 - 30. Mar 2011 at 17:17
 
Some of those trains are BEAUTIFUL..!!!
If looks could kill......(they probs did if you got hit at 130mph!!!  Shocked)
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Reply #6 - 30. Mar 2011 at 17:26
 
something about 30's design I really like, my flat was built in 1935, massive rooms and celling, much better than modern builds.

Office builds are the same, where I work we used to have this:

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But they demolished it, the day before it was due to be listed. A bank holiday Monday no less!

Now got this 80's pile of poo where I work:

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Reply #7 - 30. Mar 2011 at 17:30
 
Cannot believe they demolished that.....

Criminals.
So obviously done just in time for them to get permissions for that piece of 80's blandness.
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Reply #8 - 30. Mar 2011 at 17:58
 
o-meg-a wrote on 30. Mar 2011 at 17:17:
Some of those trains are BEAUTIFUL..!!!
If looks could kill......(they probs did if you got hit at 130mph!!!  Shocked)



Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Well 4468 Mallard wrecked destroyed its motion in its 126 mph run!! Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Thumbs Up!
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Reply #9 - 30. Mar 2011 at 18:03
 
tunnie wrote on 30. Mar 2011 at 17:26:
something about 30's design I really like, my flat was built in 1935, massive rooms and celling, much better than modern builds.

Office builds are the same, where I work we used to have this:

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But they demolished it, the day before it was due to be listed. A bank holiday Monday no less!

Now got this 80's pile of poo where I work:

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That was criminal Tunnie!! Shocked Shocked Shocked Cry Cry Cry Cry

To destroy a 1930s building of such magnificent architecture and pure artwork is just not right, but thank God some of those buildings have been saved.  It is such a pity that your Firestone  was not so lucky.  So close, yet so far! Cry Cry Cry Cry
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Reply #10 - 30. Mar 2011 at 18:04
 
tonyyeb wrote on 30. Mar 2011 at 16:41:
A lot of the early streamlining attempts were really not much more than guesswork, as later drag co-efficient tests confirmed.
As stylistic exercises go though, I love 'em.
Always liked the Chrysler Airflow -
http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.thelincolnstudio.com/1934_Airfl...

I beleive they were built in Britain for a while, too.

Another impossible to ignore early streamliner would be Hans Ledwinka's Tatra T77.....

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://files.conceptcarz.com/img/Tatra/38-...

A mighty V8 sits beyond the rear axle!  Grin



What beauties they are!  What style! Kiss Kiss Kiss Kiss Kiss Kiss Thumbs Up! Thumbs Up!
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Reply #11 - 30. Mar 2011 at 22:20
 
Flipping through a friends pictures from the 2008 Amelia Concours D'Elegance in Florida and saw this:

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..and it went 'dugga dugga dugga dugga'..
 
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Reply #12 - 31. Mar 2011 at 10:09
 
aaronjb wrote on 30. Mar 2011 at 22:20:
Flipping through a friends pictures from the 2008 Amelia Concours D'Elegance in Florida and saw this:

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Smashing!! Cool Cool Cool Cool Cool Cool Cool

That is streamlining in the full Aaron!!  Well found Thumbs Up! Thumbs Up! Thumbs Up! Thumbs Up!

Anyone know the history of that car? Huh Huh Huh
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Reply #13 - 31. Mar 2011 at 12:20
 
There was only the one shot of that car, sadly, and no title to tell what it may be..

I just realised he goes every year, though, so have some more streamliner pictures:

From 2005:

'Type 57 C' owned by Ralph Lauren:
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Scarab:
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No clue what this is!
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2009:

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Not 'streamlining' but I have to include it since they're one of my all time favourite cars:
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(I'm building the new garage purely so I can build a replica, though I think pictured is a slab-side 289, and I'd rather a 427 S/C replica)

The decade that aerodynamics forgot:
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And from 2010:

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..and it went 'dugga dugga dugga dugga'..
 
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Reply #14 - 31. Mar 2011 at 15:28
 
Wow Aaron! Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

Now you are finding some even more beautiful beauties!! Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Thumbs Up! Thumbs Up! Thumbs Up! Thumbs Up! Thumbs Up! Thumbs Up! Thumbs Up!

What style and elegance most of them have Cool Cool Cool
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