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wadeyblue Newbie Offline Posts: 25 Fife Scotland Gender: Drives: 3.2 Omega Elite	3.2 rear brake disc removal (or not) 01. Apr 2011 at 14:38 Tried to change the rear discs on my 3.2 this morning. Jack up car, remove wheel, brake caliper and disc retaining stud. Tried to remove disc with no luck, would not budge even when battered with a hammer. Is there an easy way or a knack to doing this. It is the original disc so has been on almost 9 years. HELP
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Jimbob Global Moderator Admin Team Offline Third nipple removal completed succesfuly Posts: 20462 Chester / Flintshire Gender: Drives: 52 3.2 MV6 Estate & 98 3.0 MV6 Manual Estate	Re: 3.2 rear brake disc removal (or not) Reply #1 - 01. Apr 2011 at 14:41 Handbrake off, and star adjusters used to slacken off shoes?
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Jimbob Global Moderator Admin Team Offline Third nipple removal completed succesfuly Posts: 20462 Chester / Flintshire Gender: Drives: 52 3.2 MV6 Estate & 98 3.0 MV6 Manual Estate	Re: 3.2 rear brake disc removal (or not) Reply #2 - 01. Apr 2011 at 14:43 This guide may help : http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1152564750
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TheBoy Administrator Offline TBE has an MOT! Posts: 64817 Brackley, Northants Gender: Drives: 98 MV6, 03 Elite, 00 25, 89 ZX10	Re: 3.2 rear brake disc removal (or not) Reply #3 - 01. Apr 2011 at 15:17 As Jimbob says, handbrake shoes. Follow the guide, should give enough clues how to release, and then reset properly afterwards
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wadeyblue Newbie Offline Posts: 25 Fife Scotland Gender: Drives: 3.2 Omega Elite	Re: 3.2 rear brake disc removal (or not) Reply #4 - 01. Apr 2011 at 15:34 Yep handbrake was off and slackened adjuster.
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Re: 3.2 rear brake disc removal (or not)
Reply #5 - 01. Apr 2011 at 15:42

Almost certainly being held on by hand brake shoes.

I found it works if you pull up and down on the hand brake lever several times to give the shoes a bit of a "wake up".If auto they tend not to get used too much and have a habit of being very close to the internal drum.Have a good look through inspection hole with led torch to ensure star adjuster is turning as you wont get the discs off without slackeneing off those handbrake shoes.

If you just keep hitting it with lump hammer you will damage the hand brake shoes and end up needing to renew them aswell...but you will get disc off I suppose.

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henryd Omega Baron Offline Posts: 2172 west cornwall Gender: Drives: Merc E220 estate,previous ride 2.5 elite estate	Re: 3.2 rear brake disc removal (or not) Reply #6 - 01. Apr 2011 at 16:13 will the disc move at all ?,if it will move a little then get stuck its the shoes holding it back,if it won't budge at all you need a bigger hammer
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wadeyblue Newbie Offline Posts: 25 Fife Scotland Gender: Drives: 3.2 Omega Elite	Re: 3.2 rear brake disc removal (or not) Reply #7 - 01. Apr 2011 at 16:56 Disc has not moved at all. 14 lb hammer is next up???
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freecall666 Senior Member Offline fun for all, get with the program Posts: 656 looking over your shoulder Gender: Drives: 2.0I polar sea blue	Re: 3.2 rear brake disc removal (or not) Reply #8 - 01. Apr 2011 at 17:10 wadeyblue wrote on 01. Apr 2011 at 16:56: Disc has not moved at all. 14 lb hammer is next up??? you have removed the trox bolt, as is if you keep hitting it you will soon need new back plates etc.
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wadeyblue Newbie Offline Posts: 25 Fife Scotland Gender: Drives: 3.2 Omega Elite	Re: 3.2 rear brake disc removal (or not) Reply #9 - 03. Apr 2011 at 16:45 Yep torx bolt removed
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Re: 3.2 rear brake disc removal (or not)
Reply #10 - 03. Apr 2011 at 21:20

often the case when they have been on there a long time, just hit the edge of the disc with the big hammer and turn the disc after each whack it will come off but it is a bit frightening, the gap where the caliper was is best to knock it utward and anywhere else will knock it back and forth, just pretend you hate it and whack it!!
this is assuming of course you are replacing the discs!! if you are hoping to reuse them then ignore this post!!!

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chrisgixer Omega King Offline Black ones are faster. Posts: 14570 Wokingham Gender: Drives: "Omega Black" 3.2 Elite. Thanks to Joshwyatt.	Re: 3.2 rear brake disc removal (or not) Reply #11 - 03. Apr 2011 at 21:41 Ave it! Bigger hammer. If the hub rotates then the hand brakes not binding. They do need a real good smack sometimes.
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chrisgixer Omega King Offline Black ones are faster. Posts: 14570 Wokingham Gender: Drives: "Omega Black" 3.2 Elite. Thanks to Joshwyatt.	Re: 3.2 rear brake disc removal (or not) Reply #12 - 03. Apr 2011 at 21:44 chrisgixer wrote on 03. Apr 2011 at 21:41: Ave it! Bigger hammer. If the hub rotates then the hand brakes not binding. They do need a real good smack sometimes. In neutral, front wheels chocked.
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Re: 3.2 rear brake disc removal (or not)
Reply #13 - 04. Apr 2011 at 03:11

Get underneath and slacken off the adjuster,you'll have to remove a heatshield first. The brake shoes tend to catch in a groove that has been worn into the drum part.
You can slacken off the one side at a time through the little hole in the drum/disc assembly. Trouble is knowing which direction to go! Its a right pain in the backend.
Far easier to slacken off as suggested,underneath where the cable splits in two,that way you are doing both sides at a time.

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Re: 3.2 rear brake disc removal (or not)
Reply #14 - 04. Apr 2011 at 09:59

eddie wrote on 04. Apr 2011 at 03:11:

Get underneath and slacken off the adjuster,you'll have to remove a heatshield first. The brake shoes tend to catch in a groove that has been worn into the drum part.
You can slacken off the one side at a time through the little hole in the drum/disc assembly. Trouble is knowing which direction to go! Its a right pain in the backend.
Far easier to slacken off as suggested,underneath where the cable splits in two,that way you are doing both sides at a time.

eddie

Thats incorrect I'm afraid, assuming the handbrake has been properly adjusted. If that worked for you, then the idiot who last adjusted the handbrake did it all wrong Cry

The only answer, if the shoes are stuck behind a lip, is to slacken the cable *AND* slacken the individual adjusters in each side.

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