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Bats being killed by wind farms
01. Apr 2011 at 21:35

Yet another reason why these monstrosities should be scrapped.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthnews/8419796/Wind-turbines-hit-bat-populat...

I read the following in the Comments:

First, a common misconception:

"Bats don't fly into any of the multitude of other moving objects so why should they be unable to "see" windmills. The blades turn so slowly and are huge."

Second, a commenter posts details from manufacturers' specs:

"Example 1. A 2MW turbine with an 82m diameter swept area.
Design speed of rotation, 20RPM.
Distance tip travels in one three second rotation = 258m.
Tip speed = 309kph (192MPH)

Example 2. A 3MW turbine with a 109m (optional) swept area.
Design speed of rotation, 18RPM.
Distance tip travels in one 3.3 second rotation = 342m.
Tip speed = 369kph (230MPH)

They are not slow."

So there you have it. Bats & birds take a hit, while we get sod-all electricity, but pay a fortune. Angry

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Re: Bats being killed by wind farms
Reply #1 - 01. Apr 2011 at 21:53

Nickbat II: Eco-Warrior this time it's personal

Following on from the first film where our environmental hero saved the lives of millions of oil covered sea birds as he tirelessly fought for our wildlife Grin

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"Once again, as has been characterised over the years, Nickbats urgent call to arms against the power companies desecration of our wildlife shines through the hypocrisy" The Guardian

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Albs Omega King Offline The upgrades are ongoing. Posts: 15083 North Essex Gender: Drives: 2000 2.5CD with LPG/Honda cbr600 FX	Re: Bats being killed by wind farms Reply #2 - 01. Apr 2011 at 21:56 Wtf you on about ?
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Re: Bats being killed by wind farms
Reply #3 - 01. Apr 2011 at 21:56

Banjax wrote on 01. Apr 2011 at 21:53:

Nickbat II: Eco-Warrior this time it's personal

Following on from the first film where our environmental hero saved the lives of millions of oil covered sea birds as he tirelessly fought for our wildlife Grin

"5 stars" Empire
"Outstanding" The Sun
"Once again, as has been characterised over the years, Nickbats urgent call to arms against the power companies desecration of our wildlife shines through the hypocrisy" The Guardian

at all good cinemas from Monday (preview screenings available)

Yep, sorry, BJ. I know I shouldn't raise serious issues in your company. Roll Eyes

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tidla Omega Baron Offline Posts: 2392 solihull Gender: Drives: omega 2001 3.0 elite	Re: Bats being killed by wind farms Reply #4 - 01. Apr 2011 at 23:24 i think in these times of cutbacks and the implimentation of efficiency measures, if these windmills are really not pulling their weight other uses should be found for them.
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Mantahatch Omega Knight Offline Posts: 1637 Gender:	Re: Bats being killed by wind farms Reply #5 - 02. Apr 2011 at 08:12 Sadly this has been known about for quite awhile. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/wildlife/3298513/Sea-eagles-being-killed-by-win... And will probably effect Banjax more than us southern softies.
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MICHELINMAN BANNED Offline YABBA-DABBA-DOO Posts: 369 Gender: Drives: 3.2 ELITE,BMW528SE	Re: Bats being killed by wind farms Reply #6 - 02. Apr 2011 at 08:15 Albs wrote on 01. Apr 2011 at 21:56: Wtf you on about ? Ditto
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Banjax Omega Lord Offline We're just a virus with shoes Posts: 5591 Perth Gender: Drives: '04 Subaru Legacy Sport, '03 406 diesel	Re: Bats being killed by wind farms Reply #7 - 02. Apr 2011 at 08:51 Seriously, you don't get that? NB does....really
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STMO123 Ex Member	Re: Bats being killed by wind farms Reply #8 - 02. Apr 2011 at 10:13 If it came to a choice between saving the plant and saving flying mice, I know which I would choose. Not that I agree with global...............
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Nickbat Omega Lord Offline Posts: 7167 London NW7 Gender: Drives: 2002 2.6CD Auto	Re: Bats being killed by wind farms Reply #9 - 02. Apr 2011 at 10:21 Banjax wrote on 02. Apr 2011 at 08:51: Seriously, you don't get that? NB does....really Wrong again, BJ. I haven't a clue what you're on about.
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the alarming man Senior Member Offline Posts: 783 medway kent Gender: Drives: 03 2.2 C.D	Re: Bats being killed by wind farms Reply #10 - 02. Apr 2011 at 10:32 that was the arguement for putting them off the ramsgate coast(no bats,owls) but then they go and build a wind farm on romney marsh ????
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Re: Bats being killed by wind farms
Reply #11 - 02. Apr 2011 at 11:41

Nickbat wrote on 02. Apr 2011 at 10:21:

Banjax wrote on 02. Apr 2011 at 08:51:

Seriously, you don't get that? Shocked

NB does....really Wink

Wrong again, BJ. I haven't a clue what you're on about. Roll Eyes

really?

well put it this way, much as i'm moved by your obvious concern for our woodland creatures, I don't think I've ever read you chastising any other industry for harming wildlife leading me to conclude that you merely highlight the plight of the bats because you're still tilting at windmills.

Now, a thread from you displaying an ounce of the same concern over oil covered birds in the gulf for example would allay my suspicions that you refuse to acknowledge anything which doesnt fit with your world view.

But I thought it obvious Wink

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Re: Bats being killed by wind farms
Reply #12 - 02. Apr 2011 at 12:10

A colleague posted this on Facebook the other day:

http://www.elpais.com/articulo/economia/energia/eolica/coloca/primera/vez/marzo/...

I realise very few of you here will be able to read it (no, I can't either), but the short version as provided by him:

"In March 2011, 42,2% of Spain's energy has been generated by means of renewable energies. And that is not a peak, same month in last year that figure was 48,5%.

Main source of energy has been the wind with 21% of the total with 4.738 GWh."

Ok, that's the blue touchpaper lit. I'm off! Grin

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Re: Bats being killed by wind farms
Reply #13 - 02. Apr 2011 at 12:34

Yes, but in Spain the electrics are so bad that they don't work most of the time anyway and it's so hot they just sit on a chair drinking a can of San Miguel and watching life go by. Wink

So there we have it... We need to change our habits. Sounds good to me. Not San Miguel, though. How about Timothy Taylor's. Yeah, I could sit drinking that rather than consuming energy. Grin

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Re: Bats being killed by wind farms
Reply #14 - 02. Apr 2011 at 15:00

Banjax wrote on 02. Apr 2011 at 11:41:

really?

well put it this way, much as i'm moved by your obvious concern for our woodland creatures, I don't think I've ever read you chastising any other industry for harming wildlife leading me to conclude that you merely highlight the plight of the bats because you're still tilting at windmills.

Now, a thread from you displaying an ounce of the same concern over oil covered birds in the gulf for example would allay my suspicions that you refuse to acknowledge anything which doesnt fit with your world view.

But I thought it obvious Wink

What utter tosh. When wildlife suffers as a result of an accident, that is one thing - a regrettable, but happily infrequent, occurence. And when birds are affected by oil, there are many actions which are employed, though obviously not with 100% success, to remove the oil and get the birds back into the wild.

Windmills represent an ongoing danger to wildlife, all day every day that the wind blows. Plus they instantly kill or fatally maim birds/bats.

There is, then, a great difference. I appreciate, though, it may be too complex for you to understand fully. Roll Eyes

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