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Re: Part worn tyres
Reply #15 - 08. Apr 2011 at 22:50

Andy B wrote on 08. Apr 2011 at 22:23:

Entwood wrote on 08. Apr 2011 at 22:19:

My personal view ..... the only thing that keeps 2 tonne of metal being propeller by 217 Hp on the road are 4 very small patches of rubber.

Even when skint I will not put suspect tyres on. And I include cheap / part worn under suspect. If I can't put something at least half decent on .. I won't drive it.

My life, and my wife and kids lives, might depend on those 4 little patches of rubber some dark and wet night ...... and I don't want to think about the consequences of them not doing what they should .... Sad

so you changed the rubber on all four corners when you bought it from Roger B ......

No .. the paperwork with the car showed the tyres had been bought new some 2 years previous ( just checked the receipts in the folder ..

) ... but they were replaced within 6 months as I could not get on with them ... linglongs (?) .. didn't like the way they handled.

IMHO .. tyres on a used car are LIKELY to have been fitted as new .. they might not of course .. but probability ???

who knows .. and everyone is entitled to their opinion anyway ... mine is reasonable quality rubber .... and as I've somehow managed to drive for the best part of 43 years without killing myself .... I'll stick to that !!

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Andy B Over Active Poster Offline Posts: 21988 Bury Lancs Gender: Drives: 1999 3.0 Elite auto/TDM	Re: Part worn tyres Reply #17 - 08. Apr 2011 at 22:57 VXL V6 wrote on 08. Apr 2011 at 22:54: Entwood wrote on 08. Apr 2011 at 22:50: as I've somehow managed to drive for the best part of 43 years You must be shattered Mr E....
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Entwood Omega King Offline Quietly Confident Posts: 13708 North Wiltshire Gender: Drives: 3.2 Elite (with LPG)	Re: Part worn tyres Reply #18 - 08. Apr 2011 at 23:43 VXL V6 wrote on 08. Apr 2011 at 22:54: Entwood wrote on 08. Apr 2011 at 22:50: as I've somehow managed to drive for the best part of 43 years You must be shattered Mr E.... aye ... and when I wasn't driving I was flying ... no wonder me bloody arms ache .... (nice one .... you git ... )
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Re: Part worn tyres
Reply #19 - 09. Apr 2011 at 02:02

IMHO the only way i have been able to run a car for the last 6 years is partly down to the fact i could get hold of part worns and get them fitted by a mate for a few quid.

Without this option, i would long have been pushed off the road. Fuel, Tax, INSURANCE (being a younger driver), and all the rest of it are hard enough.

I WILL NEVER pay £100 a corner for tyres....It just wont happen.

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Re: Part worn tyres
Reply #20 - 09. Apr 2011 at 09:30

Don't have a problem with the personally. But as i'm fussy (apparently) i'm happy to pay for tyres I want and know will work. Rather than take lucky dip on what turns up in axle pairs at best.

Btw, two cars I have owned had dinged rims, and potentially damaged tyre, on the inside rim, not spotted on inspection or test drive at the speed allowed by the salesman before he starts panicing. Get the car home, drive it as I would drive it and the vibration becomes clear. One car was bought at auction. What can you do? As Andy says, used car, used tyres, it's the exact same risk. Although any serious damage would be more obvious of course.

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Re: Part worn tyres
Reply #22 - 10. Apr 2011 at 23:56

Lincs Robert wrote on 10. Apr 2011 at 20:40:

cem wrote on 08. Apr 2011 at 22:03:

check the production date.. a tire older than 6 years old must never be used..

ps: which my experience says 5 years..

Why?

I've just changed the tyres on my trailer as I decided the old ones were a bit beyond the joke. Starting to show some signs of cracks in the sidewalls.

Apparently my Grandad gave this trailer to my Dad before I was born (so we're talking 1960's) and it had these tyres on then. Shocked

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Re: Part worn tyres
Reply #23 - 11. Apr 2011 at 06:30

IMO, a replacement brand name part worn is safer than many of the Chinese budget tyres. Had it not of been for the availability of Part Worn tyre, my Miggy would have been off the road when I was made redundant 2 years ago...

I always have a good look at them and keep a close eye on the tyre pressure for the first few days... The only thing I will say is make sure you get them to change the Valve (many places don't)

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Re: Part worn tyres
Reply #24 - 11. Apr 2011 at 12:55

Lincs Robert wrote on 10. Apr 2011 at 20:40:

cem wrote on 08. Apr 2011 at 22:03:

check the production date.. a tire older than 6 years old must never be used..

ps: which my experience says 5 years..

Why?

do you eat a curry after a month in a refrigerator.. Grin

answer is simple, like everything tires are bond together with chemicals.. there are some oils used in tires which evaporate with time.. and when tires dry up the bonds start to break.. 6 years time is a norm which is also accepted by proffesionals.. however it can be shorter depending on the conditions which I found it to be shorter for here..

"The British Rubber Manufacturers Association (BRMA) recommended practice issued June, 2001, states "BRMA members strongly recommend that unused tyres should not be put into service if they are over six years old and that all tyres should be replaced ten years from the date of their manufacture

More recently, The Japan Automobile Tire Manufacturers Association (JATMA) recommended practice issued May, 2005, states "customers are encouraged to have their vehicle tires promptly inspected after five years of use to determine if the tires can continue to be used (recommends spare tires be inspected as well). Furthermore, even when the tires look usable, it is recommended that all tires (including spare tires) that were made more than ten years ago be replaced with new tires. Additionally, because in some cases automobile makers--based on the characteristics of the relevant vehicle--stipulate in the owner's manual the timing of tire inspection and replacement. Please read and confirm the content of the owner's manual."

Several European vehicle manufacturers of high performance sports cars, coupes and sedans identify that "under no circumstances should tires older than 6 years be used" in their vehicle owner's manual. However, it should be noted that European recommendations must include driving conditions that include roads like the German Autobahn, which allows vehicles to be legally driven at their top speeds for extended periods of time.

While American driving conditions don't include the high-speed challenges of the German Autobahn, Chrysler and Ford Motor Company joined their European colleagues in 2005 by recommending that tires installed as Original Equipment be replaced after six years of service. (General Motors declined to offer a recommendation until a more scientific analysis of driving conditions and tire aging could be completed)."

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=138

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Re: Part worn tyres
Reply #25 - 11. Apr 2011 at 13:01

Psychoca wrote on 11. Apr 2011 at 06:30:

IMO, a replacement brand name part worn is safer than many of the Chinese budget tyres. Had it not of been for the availability of Part Worn tyre, my Miggy would have been off the road when I was made redundant 2 years ago...

I always have a good look at them and keep a close eye on the tyre pressure for the first few days... The only thing I will say is make sure you get them to change the Valve (many places don't)

it depends.. if you prefer a 2mm thread famous brand old tyre with an 7-8 mm new chinese tire, I'm afraid you will loose the bet.. apart from that tire age is also a very important factor.. when the tire looses its softness even tire with a 7-8 mm thread can not be considered safe ..

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Re: Part worn tyres
Reply #26 - 11. Apr 2011 at 13:08

chrisgixer wrote on 09. Apr 2011 at 09:30:

Don't have a problem with the personally. But as i'm fussy (apparently) i'm happy to pay for tyres I want and know will work. Rather than take lucky dip on what turns up in axle pairs at best.

Btw, two cars I have owned had dinged rims, and potentially damaged tyre, on the inside rim, not spotted on inspection or test drive at the speed allowed by the salesman before he starts panicing. Get the car home, drive it as I would drive it and the vibration becomes clear. One car was bought at auction. What can you do? As Andy says, used car, used tyres, it's the exact same risk. Although any serious damage would be more obvious of course.

Blimey Chris, you've commented on a tyre thread without once mentioning Falken's!! Grin

On a serious note, I picked up a set of original MV6 wheels from egay last year that had 4 part worn (almost new in fact) Dunlop SP Sports fitted and they're still going stong. I'm buggered if I was going to chuck away 4 perfectly good tyres and fork out for 4 new one's! Roll Eyes

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Re: Part worn tyres
Reply #27 - 11. Apr 2011 at 13:19

Not something I would do to be honest, although I have in the past (more to get correct wheels though). But I wouldn't change the tyres on a 'new' 2nd hand car until required, so thats no different.

I think Lazydocker thinks I should change those useless Michelins on the Elite... ...but he was sat the side that was about to be jousted Roll Eyes

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Re: Part worn tyres
Reply #28 - 11. Apr 2011 at 13:20

Part worns have recently struck me as a cheap way of trying various tyres without making an expensive mistake.

That said, they do worry me being your only contact with the road, and I am not sure I would ever take the risk.

I appreciate they are little different from buying a 2nd hand car but would like to know the history and that it had been tested to its original spec.

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