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Re: Part worn tyres
Reply #30 - 11. Apr 2011 at 21:44

cem wrote on 11. Apr 2011 at 13:01:

Psychoca wrote on 11. Apr 2011 at 06:30:

IMO, a replacement brand name part worn is safer than many of the Chinese budget tyres. Had it not of been for the availability of Part Worn tyre, my Miggy would have been off the road when I was made redundant 2 years ago...

I always have a good look at them and keep a close eye on the tyre pressure for the first few days... The only thing I will say is make sure you get them to change the Valve (many places don't)

it depends.. if you prefer a 2mm tread famous brand old tyre with an 7-8 mm new chinese tire, I'm afraid you will loose the bet.. apart from that tire age is also a very important factor.. when the tire looses its softness even tire with a 7-8 mm thread can not be considered safe ..

Like I say, I'll check the tyre first, and I'll only have a tyre that has at least 5-6mm of tread.. And with the roads I have to drive on, there is no way, I would consider budget tyres...

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o-meg-a Senior Member Offline avatar disabled meantime as its mahoosive! Posts: 592 south wales Gender: Drives: '97 2.5td estate - Manual - chipped	Re: Part worn tyres Reply #31 - 11. Apr 2011 at 21:50 there really is no point selling a partworn with less than 3mm, and realistically, the only ones worth buying are 4-5mm+ You're getting half the tyre life, for much less than half then money of the original tyre.
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TheBoy Administrator Offline TBE has an MOT! Posts: 64817 Brackley, Northants Gender: Drives: 98 MV6, 03 Elite, 00 25, 89 ZX10	Re: Part worn tyres Reply #32 - 11. Apr 2011 at 21:52 o-meg-a wrote on 11. Apr 2011 at 21:50: there really is no point selling a partworn with less than 3mm, and realistically, the only ones worth buying are 4-5mm+ You're getting half the tyre life, for much less than half then money of the original tyre. half life is approx 6mm, you have to take into account fitting costs...
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Albs Omega King Offline The upgrades are ongoing. Posts: 15083 North Essex Gender: Drives: 2000 2.5CD with LPG/Honda cbr600 FX	Re: Part worn tyres Reply #33 - 11. Apr 2011 at 21:58 Fit your own - seemples.
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TheBoy Administrator Offline TBE has an MOT! Posts: 64817 Brackley, Northants Gender: Drives: 98 MV6, 03 Elite, 00 25, 89 ZX10	Re: Part worn tyres Reply #34 - 11. Apr 2011 at 22:00 Albs wrote on 11. Apr 2011 at 21:58: Fit your own - seemples. Not sure I could balance them...
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cem Omega King Offline Posts: 13920 Ankara/Turkey Gender: Drives: 97 2.5 V6 Manual CD- Clio Sport	Re: Part worn tyres Reply #35 - 11. Apr 2011 at 22:26 if you will use old tires this may be useful http://www.griptyresoftener.com/ and this one http://www.austin7.org/tyre_ageing.htm
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Re: Part worn tyres
Reply #36 - 11. Apr 2011 at 22:35

TheBoy wrote on 11. Apr 2011 at 21:52:

o-meg-a wrote on 11. Apr 2011 at 21:50:

there really is no point selling a partworn with less than 3mm, and realistically, the only ones worth buying are 4-5mm+
You're getting half the tyre life, for much less than half then money of the original tyre.

half life is approx 6mm, you have to take into account fitting costs...

Explain?

If a new tyre has 8mm (most do, some have 10...but for the sake of this example it has 8)

if you take away the minimum legal tyre tread depth of 1.6mm, which leaves you with 6.4mm of useable depth when new.

Half of this useable depth is therefore 3.2mm....which when combined with the 1.6mm or legal requirement gives you 4.8mm of tread.....which is half....

i think i'm right

but correct me if i have made a mistake in those calcs

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Re: Part worn tyres
Reply #37 - 11. Apr 2011 at 22:38

and with regards to fitting costs,

even if i pay £10 a corner for fitting and balancing....which is the going rate around by me (a steep one at that),
i still save massively on the original cost of tyres.

A new 225-55-16 tyre for the omega at the cheapest of the cheap new is £65 fitted near me.
A decent make is more like £100

it costs me £10-15 for a decent make partworn with 5mm tread, plus the £10 fitting and balancing.

i'm out £20-25 for half the tyre life.

Yes please

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cem Omega King Offline Posts: 13920 Ankara/Turkey Gender: Drives: 97 2.5 V6 Manual CD- Clio Sport	Re: Part worn tyres Reply #38 - 11. Apr 2011 at 22:55 http://www.ehow.com/how_7191869_make-homemade-tire-softener.html
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cem Omega King Offline Posts: 13920 Ankara/Turkey Gender: Drives: 97 2.5 V6 Manual CD- Clio Sport	Re: Part worn tyres Reply #39 - 11. Apr 2011 at 23:21 from a quick search methylnaphthalene is the best material as factories also use that.. but its extremely dangeorus for health and dont know they sell it ready to use
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Re: Part worn tyres
Reply #40 - 12. Apr 2011 at 08:20

o-meg-a wrote on 11. Apr 2011 at 21:25:

i've been using part worns for 6 years and never had an issue....not one problem.

Me too.
In fact when I got my Toffee box MV6 wheels refurbed, I had Conti part worns put on. Never a problem at all. Interestingly enough, when I took the tyres off the CDX wheels that had been fitted 'new' (so the dealer told me when I bought the car) - they were all puncture repaired.
One cheeky blank of a car dealer (what's new?)

When getting part worns I always check 'em over and get them tested on the wheel, and so far never a problem.

As I currently have 452's on my 19's (now I know why my car likes to make sudden, unexpected detours in a different direction) I'm looking for part worn Contis or Potenzas to replace 'em

Matthew

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Re: Part worn tyres
Reply #41 - 12. Apr 2011 at 09:19

As this thread has now gone off on a tangent and missed my original personal original point, I will re-state it.

A large percentage of these second hand tyres come from written of vehicles.......i.e., they have suffed an accident bad enough to cause them to be beyond economical repair.

Now clearly if you buy a second hand car, its normaly pretty obvious the state the car is in and hence you have a much smaller risk (and its all about risk here)

And as for the second hand tyre seller saying its the likes of the Germans dumping good tyres when they change to winter ones, thats a load of rubbish as they have a second set of steel wheels with the winter tyres on (as you dont want chains on good alloys ideally!).

Now clearly an inspection is a way of helping to minimise the risk but, I personaly wont use them until there is a compulsary tyre test introduced for them which is carried out before they are sold (and to me its crazy there isnt as they are sold as fit for purpose). Thumbs Up!

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Marks DTM Calib Administrator Offline Ex Member Posts: 25671 Northern Hemisphere Gender: Drives: Astra J, Mum Bus, Dexta Tractor, 108 DMU wip	Re: Part worn tyres Reply #42 - 12. Apr 2011 at 09:28 Some intersting and well considered advice here: http://www.rospa.com/roadsafety/adviceandinformation/vehiclesafety/tyresafety/ty...
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Andy B Over Active Poster Offline Posts: 21988 Bury Lancs Gender: Drives: 1999 3.0 Elite auto/TDM	Re: Part worn tyres Reply #43 - 12. Apr 2011 at 09:31 Marks DTM Calib wrote on 12. Apr 2011 at 09:28: Some intersting and well considered advice here: http://www.rospa.com/roadsafety/adviceandinformation/vehiclesafety/tyresafety/ty... The tyre industry continues to express concern about the sale and use of part worn tyres about says it all!
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Re: Part worn tyres
Reply #44 - 12. Apr 2011 at 09:33

Marks DTM Calib wrote on 12. Apr 2011 at 09:19:

As this thread has now gone off on a tangent and missed my original personal original point, I will re-state it.

A large percentage of these second hand tyres come from written of vehicles.......i.e., they have suffed an accident bad enough to cause them to be beyond economical repair.

Now clearly if you buy a second hand car, its normaly pretty obvious the state the car is in and hence you have a much smaller risk (and its all about risk here)

And as for the second hand tyre seller saying its the likes of the Germans dumping good tyres when they change to winter ones, thats a load of rubbish as they have a second set of steel wheels with the winter tyres on (as you dont want chains on good alloys ideally!).

Now clearly an inspection is a way of helping to minimise the risk but, I personaly wont use them until there is a compulsary tyre test introduced for them which is carried out before they are sold (and to me its crazy there isnt as they are sold as fit for purpose). Thumbs Up!

yep.. and in case they are scratched by the wheel-shop some fight like I did saturday Tongue

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