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Re: Poor accel after starting from hot 2.2petrol auto
Reply #15 - 12. Apr 2011 at 19:36
 
vincedomingo wrote on 12. Apr 2011 at 17:20:
Have inspected the MAF - it was pretty clean. Incidentally I noticed that the car runs fine at
tickover anyway with the MAF disconnected
( the spanner light comes on of course) is that Normal?.
After doing about 70 miles today I've collected a consist set of codes
0135
0030
These are the lambda sensor number 1 I think
and by itself 0170
This is the rich (or lean) code.

As I have to take it for an MOT soon, I'm going to get a Vauxhall Lambda sensor and replace the first sensor which is a cheap one

I've tried driving and turning off and restarting as suggested - but I don't get consistent results and the MIL light never goes off unless I reset it.
If I reset the MIL  while in motion there is a noticable glitch in the engine then it recovers itself - is that normal?



So the car runs fine with the MAF disconnected, ie better than when it is connected??
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Re: Poor accel after starting from hot 2.2petrol auto
Reply #16 - 14. Apr 2011 at 12:04
 
The codes are now pointing to a problem with Lambda sensor 1 - heater circuit and range / performance.

Can you measure the resistance of the heater? (between the 2 white wires on the sensor, normally).

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Reply #17 - 15. Apr 2011 at 11:30
 
yep will do that today
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Reply #18 - 18. Apr 2011 at 15:21
 
At last , problem fixed!
Investigating #1 lambda sensor ( which I replaced last October) Took it out and what!! , there were little bits of broken ceramic inside it just too large to fall out of the perforations in it. Put in a OEm lambda sensor.... and all problems went away immediatly. The OEM sensor head is very different and not as open.

So now perfect acceleration, hot or cold, No MIL light.

Rule 1 not to be broken - Only fit OEM parts , after market parts - they may screw in the hole and plug in but if they don't function properly you end up buying again anyway and wasting a lot of time!

Thanks for the suggestions everyone , a great help.

After sorting this I decided to replace the cam sensor anyway as I had already bought it.
I learnt one hell of a lot about OBD 2 while doing this and am going to get a plug in that allows live readings to be taken on a laptop. I also found for the first time a list of everything that can bring on the MIL light (EML) and the cycles the GM uses in the ECU to assess if the emissions systems are working properly or actually tested. I'm used to complex systems but I have to say the ECU is doing a lot more than you might expect in clocking in faults, holding them as pending and counting until it resets tham ( if at all) without this information no wonder its confusing dealing with one light and a limited view from a few fault codes.

Now on to the rattling exhaust, the minor paint jobs where some moron hit and run in a 3663 lorry and an MOT!
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Re: Poor accel after starting from hot 2.2petrol auto
Reply #19 - 18. Apr 2011 at 20:59
 
Nice to see you got it sorted Vince, well done! Thumbs Up!
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Re: Poor accel after starting from hot 2.2petrol auto
Reply #20 - 19. Apr 2011 at 09:29
 
Excellent. Thumbs Up! Glad it's sorted.
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Re: Poor accel after starting from hot 2.2petrol auto
Reply #21 - 19. Apr 2011 at 10:00
 
again shows pattern sensors are worthless!

Glad its sorted  Thumbs Up!
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