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Which Tyres?
12. Apr 2011 at 12:26

Sorry if this is a topic covered previously, but a search didn't reveal anything of much use. Anyway, here goes...

I'm looking to replace the tyres on my 3.2 Elite Estate. Unfortunately the current set have worn badly on the inside edges due to knackered wishbone bushes, etc. The tyres are 235/45 17's.

I currently have Avon ZV5's on the car, which I have an issue with because they are an asymmetric tread pattern, meaning that the tyre cannot be swapped from side to side in an attempt to equal out wear.

It would seem that most tyre manufactures are going down the asymmetric route for this size of tyre nowadays.

Therefore, I'm looking for advice/suggestions on what tyres you guys use and recommend...

I don't drive the mig like a racing car, although I do tow a trailer or caravan occasionally, and I'm looking for a good trade off between value and wear rate.

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Jimbob Global Moderator Admin Team Offline Third nipple removal completed succesfuly Posts: 20462 Chester / Flintshire Gender: Drives: 52 3.2 MV6 Estate & 98 3.0 MV6 Manual Estate	Re: Which Tyres? Reply #1 - 12. Apr 2011 at 12:42 wear rates arent a problem if your geometry is right, and I wouldnt waste money on tyres till it is. What are the properties you value in a tyre? longevity? grip? noise? Ive had good results with Conti sport 2 / 3's Vredstein ultrac sessantas toyo proxies but thats personal preference. a lot recommend Khumo KH31 as a good balance.
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amba Omega Baron Offline Posts: 2151 Medway towns Gender: Drives: 1998 2.5 Elite Auto saloon.Fitted with 3.0 cams and Irmscher Alloys.	Re: Which Tyres? Reply #2 - 12. Apr 2011 at 13:10 I thought all 17 inch rims on an Elite should be 235/45/17,so might want to also check correct size before buying again
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twiglet Senior Member Offline "Ellie" Posts: 720 Framlingham, Suffolk Gender: Drives: 53 Plate Omega 3.2 V6 24v Auto Elite Estate, in Black with ALL the toys!!	Re: Which Tyres? Reply #3 - 12. Apr 2011 at 13:26 amba wrote on 12. Apr 2011 at 13:10: I thought all 17 inch rims on an Elite should be 235/45/17,so might want to also check correct size before buying again Sorry, that was a typo. Original post editted.
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Re: Which Tyres?
Reply #4 - 12. Apr 2011 at 13:34

Jimbob wrote on 12. Apr 2011 at 12:42:

wear rates arent a problem if your geometry is right, and I wouldnt waste money on tyres till it is.

What are the properties you value in a tyre?

longevity?
grip?
noise?

Ive had good results with Conti sport 2 / 3's
Vredstein ultrac sessantas
toyo proxies

but thats personal preference.

a lot recommend Khumo KH31 as a good balance.

Hi Jimbob,

New bushes will be installed and a full geometry check will be completed prior to new tyres being fitted. Thumbs Up!

I would say I'm more interested in longevity and noise, over outright grip, although it would be nice if I don't slide off the road at the first hint of a corner... Undecided

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Re: Which Tyres?
Reply #5 - 12. Apr 2011 at 13:41

See FAQ for the handling suspicion tyre wear guide. Vitally important to get the car set up and in tip top condition re steering and suspension before fitting new tyres to get the best out of them and avoid tram lining issues as much as possible.

Now is the time to sort it, diagnose any faults, replace any parts, set up. THEN, fit new tyres.

Sc3 , Dunlop sport max, potenza(noisy ime)

Kumho ku31, accelera Alphas seem to get good reviews.

Avoid Falkens like the plague, ESP 912 Angry

Avons not particularly great tbh.

Hth

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cem Omega King Offline Posts: 13920 Ankara/Turkey Gender: Drives: 97 2.5 V6 Manual CD- Clio Sport	Re: Which Tyres? Reply #6 - 12. Apr 2011 at 15:09 if I were you I would go for 225/50-17 (if not a big price difference) steering and road comfort will be better.. odo will be %2 out..
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Re: Which Tyres?
Reply #7 - 12. Apr 2011 at 15:48

I've tried - (in 225/55/16)

Falken FK452s, - noisy, soft, grippy, short life,
Pirelli P7s - noisy, rough, not grippy esp. wet, reasonable life, but tram line like you can't believe
Nexen CP641, fairly quiet, comfy, long life and surpisingly grippy if not outright as good as the Falkens, but the Nexen lasted twice as long!
Mohawk M112 - quiet, firm, grippy, don't know about life yet, only been on 2K, but no noticeable wear yet, and no tramlining
Hankook K105 Ventus Prime XL, quiet, grippy, no tramlining, firm and give better steering response, so far only 14K done but tyres still have 6mm on tehm so I am expecting them to last well.

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Paul

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chrisgixer

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Re: Which Tyres?
Reply #8 - 12. Apr 2011 at 16:02

PMitchell wrote on 12. Apr 2011 at 15:48:

I've tried - (in 225/55/16)

Falken FK452s, - noisy, soft, grippy, short life,
Pirelli P7s - noisy, rough, not grippy esp. wet, reasonable life, but tram line like you can't believe
Nexen CP641, fairly quiet, comfy, long life and surpisingly grippy if not outright as good as the Falkens, but the Nexen lasted twice as long!
Mohawk M112 - quiet, firm, grippy, don't know about life yet, only been on 2K, but no noticeable wear yet, and no tramlining
Hankook K105 Ventus Prime XL, quiet, grippy, no tramlining, firm and give better steering response, so far only 14K done but tyres still have 6mm on tehm so I am expecting them to last well.

Cheers

Paul

Sure the wheel barings are ok? one thing I will say for Falkens, I found them very quiet. P7 similar Undecided

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Reply #9 - 12. Apr 2011 at 16:31

I've got Pirelli P6000s in 225/55/16. The handling and grip is quite good and gave no problems in the snow and ice. The wear on the front tyres is not good though. The inside edge on the driver's side and the outside edge on the passenger side wore badly before I had the wheel alignment corrected last summer. Overall the tread is down to 3mm-4mm after less than 10k miles.

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Re: Which Tyres?
Reply #10 - 12. Apr 2011 at 20:39

chrisgixer wrote on 12. Apr 2011 at 13:41:

See FAQ for the handling suspicion tyre wear guide. Vitally important to get the car set up and in tip top condition re steering and suspension before fitting new tyres to get the best out of them and avoid tram lining issues as much as possible.

Now is the time to sort it, diagnose any faults, replace any parts, set up. THEN, fit new tyres.

Sc3 , Dunlop sport max, potenza(noisy ime)

Kumho ku31, accelera Alphas seem to get good reviews.

Avoid Falkens like the plague, ESP 912 Angry

Avons not particularly great tbh.

Hth

Hi Chris,

You probably remember giving my car the once over at the cambelt meet. You identified the rear donut bushes and front wishbone front bushes as being shot. I've since checked the front wishbone rear bushes, and they look perfectly ok, so I'm about to replace the front bushes with poly ones and the rear donuts with standard items.

Once done, the car will be getting a full geometry setup before I even consider buying new tyres, so no worries there! Thumbs Up!

Do you know which of the tyres you recommend are asymmetric, and which are directional?

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TheBoy Administrator Offline TBE has an MOT! Posts: 64817 Brackley, Northants Gender: Drives: 98 MV6, 03 Elite, 00 25, 89 ZX10	Re: Which Tyres? Reply #11 - 12. Apr 2011 at 21:33 PMitchell wrote on 12. Apr 2011 at 15:48: Nexen CP641, fairly quiet, comfy, long life and surpisingly grippy if not outright as good as the Falkens, but the Nexen lasted twice as long! Had them on Tractor/TB2 Great budget tyre, but woeful in very wet conditions...
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Re: Which Tyres?
Reply #12 - 12. Apr 2011 at 22:19

I'd take the views in this thread with a pinch of salt, some of the tyres mentioned in my mind are poop (personal experience) and independent reviews haven't rated them highly either. There are some good tyres mentioned in here though.

I'd read what's recommend here then do some research online and make your own mind up.

It helps if you state how much you're willing to pay though.

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chrisgixer Omega King Offline Black ones are faster. Posts: 14570 Wokingham Gender: Drives: "Omega Black" 3.2 Elite. Thanks to Joshwyatt.	Re: Which Tyres? Reply #13 - 12. Apr 2011 at 22:24 It is odd, one mans grippy is anothers slippery snot....
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