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paperclip test code 19
15. Apr 2011 at 15:09

hi im hoping somone can help i curently have an omega mv6 3.0 petrol automatic now i have done the paper clip test after replacing the plugs ht leads and dizzy pack and have now replaced the crankshaft sensor i have cheked over everything i can find and everything looks ok. now it is still showing fault code 19 on the paperclip test and the car is splutering and judering and vibrating like you wouldnt belive and has no real power it sounds like its missfiring iv even re routed the crank sensor wire so it dousnt sit anywhere near the exhaust but if anything the dam thing is worse not better can anyone advise please as im borderline of scraping the dam thing as im sick of working on it now thanks Angry

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CaptainZok Omega Lord Offline Pinky for PM Posts: 7301 Bolton Gender: Drives: 2000 MY 2.5 Elite	Re: paperclip test code 19 Reply #1 - 15. Apr 2011 at 15:15 Did the replacement come from VX or is it one of the cheapie egay specials?
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Elite Pete Omega King Offline My spider senses are tingling Posts: 17813 Northwich/Chester Gender: Drives: Facelift Wheezel,Breaking 2001 MV6	Re: paperclip test code 19 Reply #2 - 15. Apr 2011 at 16:03 Are you sure you got the plug leads the right way around
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henryd Omega Baron Offline Posts: 2172 west cornwall Gender: Drives: Merc E220 estate,previous ride 2.5 elite estate	Re: paperclip test code 19 Reply #3 - 15. Apr 2011 at 16:08 I agree with pete,double check leads are in correct order and also check around spark plugs for oil or water ingress edit -forget the last bit ,you have changed the plugs so all should be ok there
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Re: paperclip test code 19
Reply #4 - 16. Apr 2011 at 09:39

all the parts are original Bosch parts leads are all correct i did find oil round the plugs when i removed them put it down to rocker cover gasket tightened it up and now seems to have stoped the oil problem for now at least but cant find this fault is code 19 for anything other than the crank sensor or could it be faulty despite being brand new or could it be fitted incorectly thanks for any advice you can give

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Re: paperclip test code 19
Reply #5 - 16. Apr 2011 at 09:42

You need to do your cam cover gaskets properly. That means GM parts, and a 8Nm torque wrench (no, its not possible to guess that one).

19, thats an awkward one. 99% of the time, its a crappy sensor, either due to age, or being pattern. I'd always recommend genuine again for that part. However, I know Lazydocker can't clear his either.

Is the cam timing correct? Is the crank sensor wiring in good nick?

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Re: paperclip test code 19
Reply #6 - 16. Apr 2011 at 09:43

trikerdude2009 wrote on 16. Apr 2011 at 09:39:

all the parts are original Bosch parts leads are all correct i did find oil round the plugs when i removed them put it down to rocker cover gasket tightened it up and now seems to have stoped the oil problem for now at least but cant find this fault is code 19 for anything other than the crank sensor or could it be faulty despite being brand new or could it be fitted incorectly thanks for any advice you can give

Heading for major trouble there ... cam cover bolts should be NO MORE THAN 8 Nm .... if they were leaking . they need replacing ... properly ..

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trikerdude2009 Newbie Offline Posts: 6 leicester Gender: Drives: mv6 opel omega	Re: paperclip test code 19 Reply #7 - 16. Apr 2011 at 09:51 i Havent touched the cam timing and it did run fine it all started when it would just cut out for no reason then after a few weeks of that and even the green flag looking at it and couldnt find anything wrong it started miss firing now it sounds so bad even my 4 year old daughter was encouraging it to get us home lol
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trikerdude2009 Newbie Offline Posts: 6 leicester Gender: Drives: mv6 opel omega	Re: paperclip test code 19 Reply #8 - 16. Apr 2011 at 09:54 i Havent touched the cam timing and it did run fine it all started when it would just cut out for no reason then after a few weeks of that and even the green flag looking at it and couldnt find anything wrong it started miss firing now it sounds so bad even my 4 year old daughter was encouraging it to get us home lol
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Re: paperclip test code 19
Reply #9 - 16. Apr 2011 at 09:54

trikerdude2009 wrote on 16. Apr 2011 at 09:51:

i Havent touched the cam timing and it did run fine it all started when it would just cut out for no reason then after a few weeks of that and even the green flag looking at it and couldnt find anything wrong it started miss firing now it sounds so bad even my 4 year old daughter was encouraging it to get us home lol

OK, the cut out does sound like crank sensor.

Might be worth getting the ecu codes cleared to see if it comes back. I have a feeling the symptoms and the code are unrelated.

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TheBoy Administrator Offline TBE has an MOT! Posts: 64817 Brackley, Northants Gender: Drives: 98 MV6, 03 Elite, 00 25, 89 ZX10	Re: paperclip test code 19 Reply #10 - 16. Apr 2011 at 09:54 Are you anywhere near me, trikerdude, I'll happily clear the ecus for free
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Re: paperclip test code 19
Reply #11 - 16. Apr 2011 at 12:01

TheBoy wrote on 16. Apr 2011 at 09:42:

You need to do your cam cover gaskets properly. That means GM parts, and a 8Nm torque wrench (no, its not possible to guess that one).

19, thats an awkward one. 99% of the time, its a crappy sensor, either due to age, or being pattern. I'd always recommend genuine again for that part. However, I know Lazydocker can't clear his either.

Is the cam timing correct? Is the crank sensor wiring in good nick?

Not sure if it's back since the last clear down... I haven't checked Roll Eyes

However, although I keep getting a code 19 showing I'm getting no symptoms whatsoever and have the spare just in case Thumbs Up!

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trikerdude2009 Newbie Offline Posts: 6 leicester Gender: Drives: mv6 opel omega	Re: paperclip test code 19 Reply #12 - 17. Apr 2011 at 14:47 im in Leicester
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Re: paperclip test code 19
Reply #13 - 18. Apr 2011 at 18:02

so what are you saying just cause its showing code 19 (crank sensor ) dousent neseseraly mean thats what the fault is if thats the case how on earth are you ever supposed to fix these dam things. how the fud do any of you manege to fix these things is beond me being a mechanic is not even part of it you need to be a flipin nasa engineer bring back basic cars without all these sensors lol

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