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chrisgixer

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Exhaust care
26. Apr 2011 at 11:04

Given the oe system seems to be the best, but no longer available. I was wondering how best to try and pre long it's life, if at all. Undecided

Main problem is the join, centre sections to back box. Moisture on the inside gets blown up the slope to the silencer and leaks out at the join rusting the outside as well. Least that's how I see it. Undecided

But what to do about it...?

Wondered about that heat insulation wadding they fit round headers to protect body work etc on special builds.
Wrap some of that round to keep the heat in and hopefully evaporate the moisture off quicker. But not sure if it's absorbent and might retain water doing more damage...? Undecided

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Lazydocker Omega King Offline Victim of Pinky's Power Trip! Posts: 11336 Woodbridge, Suffolk Gender: Drives: 2003 3.2 Elite Estate LPG Converted, inspected and Certified	Re: Exhaust care Reply #1 - 26. Apr 2011 at 11:22 TBH, I wouldn't have thought the gasses were hot enough at that point in the exhaust You've got nothing to lose by trying it, except a few quids worth of heat bandage Best way to prolong exhaust life is not to do short journeys
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SMD Intermediate Member Offline Posts: 299 London Gender: Drives: Nothing. Waiting for someone to sell me their 3.2 Elite	Re: Exhaust care Reply #2 - 26. Apr 2011 at 19:11 How old is your Elite 'Black'? I'm jealous of your original exhaust, I hope it doesn't last
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TheBoy Administrator Offline TBE has an MOT! Posts: 64817 Brackley, Northants Gender: Drives: 98 MV6, 03 Elite, 00 25, 89 ZX10	Re: Exhaust care Reply #3 - 26. Apr 2011 at 19:33 I'm in the same boat as chrisgixer - my Elite is still on original exhaust, but I doubt for much longer...
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r1 Omega Knight Offline Posts: 1043 nottingham Gender: Drives: 2.5	Re: Exhaust care Reply #4 - 26. Apr 2011 at 19:40 drill a hole in it sounds daft but i just changed a system on a 407 and the rear silencer had a drain hole in it.this was not a rusthole as the back box was fine never seen this before but must have passed mots okay
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Reply #5 - 26. Apr 2011 at 19:44

I put a Bosal system on my Desmond 2 years or so ago after the Vauxhall system rotted off.

The Bosal was never the same for quiteness. I considered replacing this when I put a new downpipe and cat on a few weeks ago but didn't bother - I should have, as it's now beginning to annoy the keek out of me.

The trouble is, I don't know what system I should use to give me the same level of refinement I had with the OE one.

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Re: Exhaust care
Reply #6 - 26. Apr 2011 at 19:56

Desperate Den wrote on 26. Apr 2011 at 19:44:

I put a Bosal system on my Desmond 2 years or so ago after the Vauxhall system rotted off....

The Bosal system fitted to my Senator lasted just over 2 yrs ie just till the guarantee ran out. That was when I built my own stainless system. Wink

Desperate Den wrote on 26. Apr 2011 at 19:44:

The Bosal was never the same for quiteness. I considered replacing this when I put a new downpipe and cat on a few weeks ago but didn't bother - I should have, as it's now beginning to annoy the keek out of me.

The trouble is, I don't know what system I should use to give me the same level of refinement I had with the OE one.

You don't want a s/s Jetex then. It's nothing like in the same league as a full on 6" dia Max Power system, but noisier than OE.

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Reply #7 - 26. Apr 2011 at 20:37

Andy B wrote on 26. Apr 2011 at 19:56:

Desperate Den wrote on 26. Apr 2011 at 19:44:

I put a Bosal system on my Desmond 2 years or so ago after the Vauxhall system rotted off....

The Bosal system fitted to my Senator lasted just over 2 yrs ie just till the guarantee ran out. That was when I built my own stainless system. Wink

Desperate Den wrote on 26. Apr 2011 at 19:44:

The Bosal was never the same for quiteness. I considered replacing this when I put a new downpipe and cat on a few weeks ago but didn't bother - I should have, as it's now beginning to annoy the keek out of me.

The trouble is, I don't know what system I should use to give me the same level of refinement I had with the OE one.

You don't want a s/s Jetex then. It's nothing like in the same league as a full on 6" dia Max Power system, but noisier than OE.

I'm not sure what to do Andy. The system from the cat back appears to be intact but there is a terrible flat rasp from the exhaust note - although I could hear something rattling inside the back box after wiggling it about a bit when I was underneath the car taking the back discs off last week.

I like a quiet exhaust and only wish the original Vauxhall one was still available.

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Re: Exhaust care
Reply #8 - 26. Apr 2011 at 20:44

Mine had a Bosal on when I bought it and I eventually got bored of the drone at 60-70 so I was lucky to find a stainless Irmscher backbox which turned out to be quieter all round(except over 4000RPM when it makes a gorgeous noise) The old one was full of rusty mush when it came off!

My centre box has a blow now and like yourself I don't know which way to go.

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chrisgixer Omega King Offline Black ones are faster. Posts: 14570 Wokingham Gender: Drives: "Omega Black" 3.2 Elite. Thanks to Joshwyatt.	Re: Exhaust care Reply #9 - 26. Apr 2011 at 20:50 SMD wrote on 26. Apr 2011 at 19:11: How old is your Elite 'Black'? I'm jealous of your original exhaust, I hope it doesn't last 03 with 60k on it, thanks to Josh. I reckon there's a a year, maybe two at a push, left in the oe system.
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chrisgixer

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Re: Exhaust care
Reply #10 - 26. Apr 2011 at 20:54

r1 wrote on 26. Apr 2011 at 19:40:

drill a hole in it
sounds daft but i just changed a system on a 407 and the rear silencer had a drain hole in it.this was not a rusthole as the back box was fine never seen this before but must have passed mots okay

That's something I have wondered about ...

Would save the join area, but some rust would form round the hole, but then the join has 4 holes round it, where the slots are, and that lasted long enough.... Undecided

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Re: Exhaust care
Reply #11 - 26. Apr 2011 at 21:01

omegod wrote on 26. Apr 2011 at 20:44:

Mine had a Bosal on when I bought it and I eventually got bored of the drone at 60-70 so I was lucky to find a stainless Irmscher backbox which turned out to be quieter all round(except over 4000RPM when it makes a gorgeous noise) The old one was full of rusty mush when it came off!

My centre box has a blow now and like yourself I don't know which way to go.

Eternal seems the only cost effective option, but I'd be disappointed with the quality, if not the price. Note quality is better than the current crop of tc exhausts(similar to, if not made by,bosal) but still priced similar to the oe system less 20%. which still seems steep to me...?

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Re: Exhaust care
Reply #12 - 26. Apr 2011 at 21:32

chrisgixer wrote on 26. Apr 2011 at 21:01:

omegod wrote on 26. Apr 2011 at 20:44:

Mine had a Bosal on when I bought it and I eventually got bored of the drone at 60-70 so I was lucky to find a stainless Irmscher backbox which turned out to be quieter all round(except over 4000RPM when it makes a gorgeous noise) The old one was full of rusty mush when it came off!

My centre box has a blow now and like yourself I don't know which way to go.

Eternal seems the only cost effective option, but I'd be disappointed with the quality, if not the price. Note quality is better than the current crop of tc exhausts(similar to, if not made by,bosal) but still priced similar to the oe system less 20%. which still seems steep to me...?

eternal is about £130 for all 3 parts, deliverd Undecided

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chrisgixer

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Re: Exhaust care
Reply #13 - 26. Apr 2011 at 21:43

TheBoy wrote on 26. Apr 2011 at 21:32:

chrisgixer wrote on 26. Apr 2011 at 21:01:

omegod wrote on 26. Apr 2011 at 20:44:

Mine had a Bosal on when I bought it and I eventually got bored of the drone at 60-70 so I was lucky to find a stainless Irmscher backbox which turned out to be quieter all round(except over 4000RPM when it makes a gorgeous noise) The old one was full of rusty mush when it came off!

My centre box has a blow now and like yourself I don't know which way to go.

Eternal seems the only cost effective option, but I'd be disappointed with the quality, if not the price. Note quality is better than the current crop of tc exhausts(similar to, if not made by,bosal) but still priced similar to the oe system less 20%. which still seems steep to me...?

eternal is about £130 for all 3 parts, deliverd Undecided

Current crop tc exhaust was £311. Now less 20%. So £248 ...?

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VXL V6 Omega Lord Offline Posts: 5306 Gender:	Re: Exhaust care Reply #14 - 26. Apr 2011 at 22:16 Wouldn't it be good if someone with excellent metalworking skills and access to good quality materials could build us all custom systems to the same level / better level than the Original GM systems? Sassanach!!!!! Where are you?
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