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I had a play in Amigo's old Beastie today
03. May 2011 at 20:11

I work with its new owner, TheDaddy - some of the Mario Karters may know him by another name (spookily enough, there is a Mario Karter called TheDaddy, but thats someone else... ...confused? Me too)

As regulars will recall, I am not a fan of Omega manuals, but I did have myself a little fun Cheesy

. TheDaddy doesn't make a good passenger either Grin

The handling is OK, though has that MV6 high speed understeer, but I reckon we can get a few more GGs from the motor...

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Jimbob Global Moderator Admin Team Offline Third nipple removal completed succesfuly Posts: 20462 Chester / Flintshire Gender: Drives: 52 3.2 MV6 Estate & 98 3.0 MV6 Manual Estate	Re: I had a play in Amigo's old Beastie today Reply #1 - 03. May 2011 at 20:12 sounds good - so whats his Mario name then?
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TheBoy Administrator Offline TBE has an MOT! Posts: 64817 Brackley, Northants Gender: Drives: 98 MV6, 03 Elite, 00 25, 89 ZX10	Re: I had a play in Amigo's old Beastie today Reply #2 - 03. May 2011 at 20:15 Jimbob wrote on 03. May 2011 at 20:12: sounds good - so whats his Mario name then? "Tony"
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Jimbob Global Moderator Admin Team Offline Third nipple removal completed succesfuly Posts: 20462 Chester / Flintshire Gender: Drives: 52 3.2 MV6 Estate & 98 3.0 MV6 Manual Estate	Re: I had a play in Amigo's old Beastie today Reply #3 - 03. May 2011 at 21:18 TheBoy wrote on 03. May 2011 at 20:15: Jimbob wrote on 03. May 2011 at 20:12: sounds good - so whats his Mario name then? "Tony"
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chrisgixer Omega King Offline Black ones are faster. Posts: 14570 Wokingham Gender: Drives: "Omega Black" 3.2 Elite. Thanks to Joshwyatt.	Re: I had a play in Amigo's old Beastie today Reply #4 - 04. May 2011 at 05:41 A Chip?
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chrisgixer Omega King Offline Black ones are faster. Posts: 14570 Wokingham Gender: Drives: "Omega Black" 3.2 Elite. Thanks to Joshwyatt.	Re: I had a play in Amigo's old Beastie today Reply #5 - 04. May 2011 at 05:43 chrisgixer wrote on 04. May 2011 at 05:41: A Chip? For the car, not...... .
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TheBoy Administrator Offline TBE has an MOT! Posts: 64817 Brackley, Northants Gender: Drives: 98 MV6, 03 Elite, 00 25, 89 ZX10	Re: I had a play in Amigo's old Beastie today Reply #6 - 04. May 2011 at 07:45 chrisgixer wrote on 04. May 2011 at 05:41: A Chip? No, there is something else - it just feels a bit flat IME. I think we will start with the basics. Will probably start with putting the original airbox back on, with the standard cold feed. I was in work gear yesterday, so didn't look at fuel filter etc...
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Re: I had a play in Amigo's old Beastie today
Reply #7 - 04. May 2011 at 08:59

TheBoy wrote on 04. May 2011 at 07:45:

[quote author=6F6C6C7C7D6F66090 link=1304449907/4#4 date=1304484116]A Chip?

No, there is something else - it just feels a bit flat IME. I think we will start with the basics.

Will probably start with putting the original airbox back on, with the standard cold feed. I was in work gear yesterday, so didn't look at fuel filter etc...[/quote]
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Kevin Wood Global Moderator Admin Team Offline Posts: 20377 Alton, Hampshire Gender: Drives: 3.2 MV6 (LPG), Westfield	Re: I had a play in Amigo's old Beastie today Reply #8 - 04. May 2011 at 09:00 Breathing hot air from under the bonnet will certainly make it feel "flat" in this weather. Had a split intake duct on my Laguna that let in warm air and I was surprised how noticeable it was. Kevin
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Re: I had a play in Amigo's old Beastie today
Reply #9 - 04. May 2011 at 09:07

Kevin Wood wrote on 04. May 2011 at 09:00:

Breathing hot air from under the bonnet will certainly make it feel "flat" in this weather. Thumbs Up!

Had a split intake duct on my Laguna that let in warm air and I was surprised how noticeable it was.

Kevin

I think that is possibly the biggest problem, as no attempt has been made to prevent hot air getting around the cone filter.

'Flat' is probably a bit harsh, but definately should be a bit more eager. Amigo MX5 did give TheDaddy the original airbox, so its a simple no-cost test, for the sake of 10 minutes effort.

I might check and reset BLMs whilst there, so at least the ECU can learn directly from the new filter

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Re: I had a play in Amigo's old Beastie today
Reply #10 - 04. May 2011 at 09:14

TheBoy wrote on 04. May 2011 at 09:07:

Kevin Wood wrote on 04. May 2011 at 09:00:

Breathing hot air from under the bonnet will certainly make it feel "flat" in this weather. Thumbs Up!

Had a split intake duct on my Laguna that let in warm air and I was surprised how noticeable it was.

Kevin

I think that is possibly the biggest problem, as no attempt has been made to prevent hot air getting around the cone filter.

'Flat' is probably a bit harsh, but definately should be a bit more eager. Amigo MX5 did give TheDaddy the original airbox, so its a simple no-cost test, for the sake of 10 minutes effort.

I might check and reset BLMs whilst there, so at least the ECU can learn directly from the new filter

It should already be compensating via the intake air temperature sensor but no harm in a check / reset of the BLMs anyway.

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Reply #11 - 04. May 2011 at 10:30

Vast majority of after market air intakes result in less performance in an MX5. There are only a couple CAI's that do actually work but they cost loads and are quite rare.

I'd stick with the stock item.

Last time I was in the MX5 scene people had had found an inexpensive way of super charging them using M45's iirc from BMW Mini's.

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Re: I had a play in Amigo's old Beastie today
Reply #12 - 04. May 2011 at 10:32

Kevin Wood wrote on 04. May 2011 at 09:14:

TheBoy wrote on 04. May 2011 at 09:07:

Kevin Wood wrote on 04. May 2011 at 09:00:

Breathing hot air from under the bonnet will certainly make it feel "flat" in this weather. Thumbs Up!

Had a split intake duct on my Laguna that let in warm air and I was surprised how noticeable it was.

Kevin

I think that is possibly the biggest problem, as no attempt has been made to prevent hot air getting around the cone filter.

'Flat' is probably a bit harsh, but definately should be a bit more eager. Amigo MX5 did give TheDaddy the original airbox, so its a simple no-cost test, for the sake of 10 minutes effort.

I might check and reset BLMs whilst there, so at least the ECU can learn directly from the new filter

It should already be compensating via the intake air temperature sensor but no harm in a check / reset of the BLMs anyway.

No need, its measuring Mass Air Flow so temp is already taken into account Thumbs Up!

I suspect the air temp sensor does little more than allow the ECU to get an estimate of fuel temp (and hence why buggering with it seems to do bugger all)

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Re: I had a play in Amigo's old Beastie today
Reply #13 - 04. May 2011 at 11:16

Shimmy wrote on 04. May 2011 at 10:30:

Vast majority of after market air intakes result in less performance in an MX5. There are only a couple CAI's that do actually work but they cost loads and are quite rare.

I'd stick with the stock item.

Last time I was in the MX5 scene people had had found an inexpensive way of super charging them using M45's iirc from BMW Mini's.

We talking about Omegas Grin

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Re: I had a play in Amigo's old Beastie today
Reply #14 - 04. May 2011 at 11:44

Marks DTM Calib wrote on 04. May 2011 at 10:32:

No need, its measuring Mass Air Flow so temp is already taken into account Thumbs Up!

I suspect the air temp sensor does little more than allow the ECU to get an estimate of fuel temp (and hence why buggering with it seems to do bugger all)

True.

I'm thinking speed-density as usual.

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