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Re: LPG Tank Options
Reply #15 - 07. May 2011 at 14:15

tigers_gonads wrote on 07. May 2011 at 13:59:

I have ordered the 55 ltr 4 hole donut tank for my estate.

I can't have a tank in the load area 24 / 7 because i will need to drop the seats sometimes for long loads.

Has anybody fitted / is it possible to fit 2nd tank tank in a estate ?

If it can be done, how would you go about it ?

You can fit as many tanks as you like, but there is no acceptable "quick Release" connectors for LPG in automotive use so it wouldn't comply with COP11 unless permanently fitted Wink

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Re: LPG Tank Options
Reply #16 - 07. May 2011 at 14:19

Jimbob wrote on 07. May 2011 at 13:56:

Looks good, and the route I would want (With the smaller tank) should I ever go this route.

IMO, a cylinder just isn't an option in an Estate. Raising the floor is simple enough and I'm sure we can cope with losing a few inches off the height in the boot Thumbs Up!

TBH, looking at the work involved to get the 650mm diameter 77L tank in I'm seriously considering going for a 630mm Dia 72L tank... It will just be a whole lot easier to fit and would leave a little space around the tank for small items (like the spare crank sensor, LPG diagnostic lead, etc) without having to use the cubby holes for them Undecided

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Lazydocker Omega King Offline Victim of Pinky's Power Trip! Posts: 11336 Woodbridge, Suffolk Gender: Drives: 2003 3.2 Elite Estate LPG Converted, inspected and Certified	Re: LPG Tank Options Reply #17 - 07. May 2011 at 14:21 Dazzler wrote on 07. May 2011 at 14:12: The estate i went to see only had a 47ltr tank , and the floor was still raised by a couple of inchs. You saved me a trip to look at that one... I was seriously tempted to but didn't bother after your report!
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Re: LPG Tank Options
Reply #18 - 07. May 2011 at 14:42

Lazydocker wrote on 07. May 2011 at 14:15:

tigers_gonads wrote on 07. May 2011 at 13:59:

I have ordered the 55 ltr 4 hole donut tank for my estate.

I can't have a tank in the load area 24 / 7 because i will need to drop the seats sometimes for long loads.

Has anybody fitted / is it possible to fit 2nd tank tank in a estate ?

If it can be done, how would you go about it ?

You can fit as many tanks as you like, but there is no acceptable "quick Release" connectors for LPG in automotive use so it wouldn't comply with COP11 unless permanently fitted Wink

Would be possible to fit a T piece with threaded ends in the circuit with a threaded cap on the end or is that against regs ?

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Re: LPG Tank Options
Reply #19 - 07. May 2011 at 14:50

tigers_gonads wrote on 07. May 2011 at 14:42:

Lazydocker wrote on 07. May 2011 at 14:15:

tigers_gonads wrote on 07. May 2011 at 13:59:

I have ordered the 55 ltr 4 hole donut tank for my estate.

I can't have a tank in the load area 24 / 7 because i will need to drop the seats sometimes for long loads.

Has anybody fitted / is it possible to fit 2nd tank tank in a estate ?

If it can be done, how would you go about it ?

You can fit as many tanks as you like, but there is no acceptable "quick Release" connectors for LPG in automotive use so it wouldn't comply with COP11 unless permanently fitted Wink

Would be possible to fit a T piece with threaded ends in the circuit with a threaded cap on the end or is that against regs ?

Against regs, plus I wouldn't trust it when not connected to a tank Roll Eyes

Plus, the secure mounting of the tank means it's not a 5 minute job to take it out/put it back in Thumbs Up!

Oh... And they're heavy! Grin

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Re: LPG Tank Options
Reply #20 - 07. May 2011 at 14:55

Lazydocker wrote on 07. May 2011 at 14:50:

tigers_gonads wrote on 07. May 2011 at 14:42:

Lazydocker wrote on 07. May 2011 at 14:15:

tigers_gonads wrote on 07. May 2011 at 13:59:

I have ordered the 55 ltr 4 hole donut tank for my estate.

I can't have a tank in the load area 24 / 7 because i will need to drop the seats sometimes for long loads.

Has anybody fitted / is it possible to fit 2nd tank tank in a estate ?

If it can be done, how would you go about it ?

You can fit as many tanks as you like, but there is no acceptable "quick Release" connectors for LPG in automotive use so it wouldn't comply with COP11 unless permanently fitted Wink

Would be possible to fit a T piece with threaded ends in the circuit with a threaded cap on the end or is that against regs ?

Against regs, plus I wouldn't trust it when not connected to a tank Roll Eyes

Plus, the secure mounting of the tank means it's not a 5 minute job to take it out/put it back in Thumbs Up!

Oh... And they're heavy! Grin

So thats a no then Grin

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Re: LPG Tank Options
Reply #21 - 07. May 2011 at 15:03

I had to do a fair bit of modding to the vapour box I'll try and explain:- first carefully ground off the rubber sealing groove and binned the rubber seal (used sikaflex to seal instead. Now the hard one for me to explain,I made a very accurate cornflake box template of the side of the box,then I relocated the template on the side by skewing it slightly to narrow down the box width as much as possible by repositioning the lid profile at a slightly different angle then carefully and accurately reshaped the profile finishing off by polishing the edge and hey presto it worked I now have about 5mm clearance and can refit/remove lid with ease. I've tested the box by sealing the rubber exit grommets up and planting the box with lid fitted on a rubber surface to seal the base then sucking /blowing by tube through the gas exit grommet and it's a 100% seal.hope Ive managed to explain ok my comment is this job needs care and accuracy with with a hand metal cutter/grinder and mark off the template with a sharp scriber in the alloy

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Re: LPG Tank Options
Reply #22 - 07. May 2011 at 15:09

Thanks for explaining that Cilff. I understood (sort of) from your previous comments Roll Eyes

I'll explore "soft" vapour boxes first, although AFAIK they're only available for single hole tanks but it looks like the 630x270mm 72L tank would be much easier to fit Thumbs Up!

Oh... And the more I think about the convenience of being able to store the little bits and pieces around it appeals too Thumbs Up!

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tigers_gonads Omega Knight Offline can't spell, don't care !! Posts: 1450 hull Gender: Drives: omega 3.0 v6 cd manual estate	Re: LPG Tank Options Reply #23 - 07. May 2011 at 15:10 Hi cliffo, What days do you come across my way ( Hull ). I should have all my kit together next week so i'd like to take your offer up and have a good luck round your car if possible ? Bugger Ment to send that via PM
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Cliffo B Omega Baron Offline Posts: 2754 Leeds West Yorkshire Gender: Drives: '03 elite 3.2 estate	Re: LPG Tank Options Reply #24 - 07. May 2011 at 15:26 thats ok will pm you,another option is I could give you my sister's address at Flamboro I go there weekly to take her shopping she can't walk solo (no balance from the waist up) Next day is comeing Weds
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tigers_gonads Omega Knight Offline can't spell, don't care !! Posts: 1450 hull Gender: Drives: omega 3.0 v6 cd manual estate	Re: LPG Tank Options Reply #25 - 07. May 2011 at 15:32 I've got the front end kit now. The rear should be here monday or tuesday. Kevin Wood is going to try and sort us out a drilled and tapped manifold this weekend so when i've got everything, i'll PM you and we will get something sorted I think I have the front sorted in my mind but not sure about the tank end Cheers
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Cliffo B Omega Baron Offline Posts: 2754 Leeds West Yorkshire Gender: Drives: '03 elite 3.2 estate	Re: LPG Tank Options Reply #26 - 07. May 2011 at 15:37 Ah so you spotted that ,don't forget the rear end road noise is quieter also
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blackviper90210 Senior Member Offline Posts: 836 Bromsgrove, West Midlands Gender: Drives: 1999 Omega Elite Estate 3.0 LPG	Re: LPG Tank Options Reply #27 - 07. May 2011 at 15:51 Hi guys, I have LPG already installed in my car (done before I got it), I know nothing about them and reading this thread was interesting. In idiot language, what is: Multivalve/ 4 pot and gas tight box? please. I have a doughnut 50ltr in the wheel well of my estate, thats about all I know and that I get 200miles out of it!
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Cliffo B Omega Baron Offline Posts: 2754 Leeds West Yorkshire Gender: Drives: '03 elite 3.2 estate	Re: LPG Tank Options Reply #28 - 07. May 2011 at 16:00 I think with hindsight I'd go for a 630 dia I think you may still have to remove the well lid flange,to accomodate the VB.The 650 tank would just buckle scrape it's way past without the VB on.
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Re: LPG Tank Options
Reply #29 - 07. May 2011 at 16:18

Cliffo B wrote on 07. May 2011 at 16:00:

I think with hindsight I'd go for a 630 dia I think you may still have to remove the well lid flange,to accomodate the VB.The 650 tank would just buckle scrape it's way past without the VB on.

But the 20mm reduction in Diameter should solve that problem... I hope Roll Eyes

Basically, much smaller capacity just isn't a viable option for me so I'll make it fit, and you've managed to get the 650mm one in so it'll be fine Thumbs Up!

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