Omega Owners Forum - Self levelling

Tonka. Senior Member Offline Posts: 867 Lincoln, Lincolnshire Gender: Drives: Facelift OMEGA 2.5 V6 CDX	Self levelling 13. Jul 2011 at 17:38 Just investigating a possibility for improving the ride whilst towing. Is it possible to fit self levelling suspension to my CDX? If it is possible, what is involved, what parts would I need and how much should the parts cost from an OOF breaker?? Just curious..........
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Re: Self levelling
Reply #1 - 13. Jul 2011 at 19:58

My personal view would be that it is nothing but hassle. You would be better off buying some Bilstein B4's and some spring assisters.

If the wiring is present in your loom you would need the sensors, front to rear air pipes, the pump which fits up under the front wing and a pair of good working s/l shockers , Oh and the softer rear springs without broken bits.

The shockers probably would need buying new and even on TC are a lot of dosh (£160 at a guess for a pair).

having said that I have everything you need apart from the shockers on my elite I am breaking. It all works except the shockers which are shot. Make me an offer and I will package it all up and post it to England on payment of a small Paypal deposit. Thumbs Up!

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Tonka. Senior Member Offline Posts: 867 Lincoln, Lincolnshire Gender: Drives: Facelift OMEGA 2.5 V6 CDX	Re: Self levelling Reply #2 - 13. Jul 2011 at 20:05 I think I will stick with the spring assisters. once i have bought them off a forum member Thanks for your advice Varche
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chrisgixer Omega King Offline Black ones are faster. Posts: 14570 Wokingham Gender: Drives: "Omega Black" 3.2 Elite. Thanks to Joshwyatt.	Re: Self levelling Reply #3 - 14. Jul 2011 at 05:34 Depends if the relevant loom connectors are present I guess. But I have a feeling elite looms are differant? Otherwise it's plug and play. Will work with any springs, as plod prove. As dampers they aren't brilliant. Maybe the Monroe air assist dampers would be better on non elite cars?
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Re: Self levelling
Reply #4 - 14. Jul 2011 at 22:06

chrisgixer wrote on 14. Jul 2011 at 05:34:

Depends if the relevant loom connectors are present I guess. But I have a feeling elite looms are differant?
Otherwise it's plug and play. Will work with any springs, as plod prove.

As dampers they aren't brilliant. Maybe the Monroe air assist dampers would be better on non elite cars?

Seem OK to me

Wonder if they wound connect to a SL system

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Re: Self levelling
Reply #5 - 14. Jul 2011 at 22:48

Martin Imber wrote on 14. Jul 2011 at 22:06:

chrisgixer wrote on 14. Jul 2011 at 05:34:

Depends if the relevant loom connectors are present I guess. But I have a feeling elite looms are differant?
Otherwise it's plug and play. Will work with any springs, as plod prove.

As dampers they aren't brilliant. Maybe the Monroe air assist dampers would be better on non elite cars?

Seem OK to me

Wonder if they wound connect to a SL system

If they are better dampers it would be worth a go for Elite owners I guess.

Does anyone know if the sl loom and connectors are present on gls, cd, cdx, mv6? Guessing not...?

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Re: Self levelling
Reply #6 - 15. Jul 2011 at 09:55

chrisgixer wrote on 14. Jul 2011 at 22:48:

Martin Imber wrote on 14. Jul 2011 at 22:06:

chrisgixer wrote on 14. Jul 2011 at 05:34:

Depends if the relevant loom connectors are present I guess. But I have a feeling elite looms are differant?
Otherwise it's plug and play. Will work with any springs, as plod prove.

As dampers they aren't brilliant. Maybe the Monroe air assist dampers would be better on non elite cars?

Seem OK to me

Wonder if they wound connect to a SL system

If they are better dampers it would be worth a go for Elite owners I guess.

Does anyone know if the sl loom and connectors are present on gls, cd, cdx, mv6? Guessing not...?

If they are pump and stuff may be wanted

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The other tuned 2.6. DIY LPG, towbar, upgrade ICE & Wing Spoiler, Air shocks, Eibach Pro Springs, Poly WB bushes, WIM setup, HID conversion, 3.0 cams, ported ect.

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Re: Self levelling
Reply #7 - 15. Jul 2011 at 17:55

Martin Imber wrote on 15. Jul 2011 at 09:55:

chrisgixer wrote on 14. Jul 2011 at 22:48:

Martin Imber wrote on 14. Jul 2011 at 22:06:

chrisgixer wrote on 14. Jul 2011 at 05:34:

Depends if the relevant loom connectors are present I guess. But I have a feeling elite looms are differant?
Otherwise it's plug and play. Will work with any springs, as plod prove.

As dampers they aren't brilliant. Maybe the Monroe air assist dampers would be better on non elite cars?

Seem OK to me

Wonder if they wound connect to a SL system

If they are better dampers it would be worth a go for Elite owners I guess.

Does anyone know if the sl loom and connectors are present on gls, cd, cdx, mv6? Guessing not...?

If they are pump and stuff may be wanted

... And some ingenuity

guessing the key will be connecting omega air line to Monroe shock body.

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Re: Self levelling
Reply #8 - 15. Jul 2011 at 19:26

chrisgixer wrote on 15. Jul 2011 at 17:55:

Martin Imber wrote on 15. Jul 2011 at 09:55:

chrisgixer wrote on 14. Jul 2011 at 22:48:

Martin Imber wrote on 14. Jul 2011 at 22:06:

chrisgixer wrote on 14. Jul 2011 at 05:34:

Depends if the relevant loom connectors are present I guess. But I have a feeling elite looms are differant?
Otherwise it's plug and play. Will work with any springs, as plod prove.

As dampers they aren't brilliant. Maybe the Monroe air assist dampers would be better on non elite cars?

Seem OK to me

Wonder if they wound connect to a SL system

If they are better dampers it would be worth a go for Elite owners I guess.

Does anyone know if the sl loom and connectors are present on gls, cd, cdx, mv6? Guessing not...?

If they are pump and stuff may be wanted

... And some ingenuity

guessing the key will be connecting omega air line to Monroe shock body.

Chris, I don't think the Monroes work that way. My understanding is that the shocks have a schraeder valve and you can pump them up with a standard tyre airline for when you are towing or carrying a boot load of stuff. For normal use you let some air out of the valve on each side. They don't interface with the Omega s/l air pipes at all.

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Finished breaking the red mfl Elite saloon in Spain. Got a shed load of stuff. Will post parts.

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Re: Self levelling
Reply #9 - 15. Jul 2011 at 20:08

Varche wrote on 15. Jul 2011 at 19:26:

chrisgixer wrote on 15. Jul 2011 at 17:55:

Martin Imber wrote on 15. Jul 2011 at 09:55:

chrisgixer wrote on 14. Jul 2011 at 22:48:

Martin Imber wrote on 14. Jul 2011 at 22:06:

chrisgixer wrote on 14. Jul 2011 at 05:34:

Depends if the relevant loom connectors are present I guess. But I have a feeling elite looms are differant?
Otherwise it's plug and play. Will work with any springs, as plod prove.

As dampers they aren't brilliant. Maybe the Monroe air assist dampers would be better on non elite cars?

Seem OK to me

Wonder if they wound connect to a SL system

If they are better dampers it would be worth a go for Elite owners I guess.

Does anyone know if the sl loom and connectors are present on gls, cd, cdx, mv6? Guessing not...?

If they are pump and stuff may be wanted

... And some ingenuity

guessing the key will be connecting omega air line to Monroe shock body.

Chris, I don't think the Monroes work that way. My understanding is that the shocks have a schraeder valve and you can pump them up with a standard tyre airline for when you are towing or carrying a boot load of stuff. For normal use you let some air out of the valve on each side. They don't interface with the Omega s/l air pipes at all.

Understood. The thinking is the Monroes are better dampers. So it's an attempt on the best of both worlds. Automatic Monroes with omega system. I have no idea how they work, never laid eyes on them.

We are in Martins world, as he has Monroes on his. Undecided

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Lazydocker Omega King Offline Victim of Pinky's Power Trip! Posts: 11336 Woodbridge, Suffolk Gender: Drives: 2003 3.2 Elite Estate LPG Converted, inspected and Certified	Re: Self levelling Reply #10 - 15. Jul 2011 at 21:11 I have a vague recollection of someone managing to find aftermarket shocks that connect to the Vx Airlines
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geoffr70 Omega Knight Offline Join the 3 litre club! Then the 10.5 l club woo! Posts: 1881 Sunderland Gender: Drives: 2000 f/l 3.0 Elite Saloon auto, 2000 f/l 3.0 MV6 Saloon manual, Dennis RS133 (occasionally!)	Re: Self levelling Reply #11 - 15. Jul 2011 at 21:54 I've got monroes on my elite. The airlines clip on as normal, or there is a hose and pressure gauge allowing you to control pressure manually
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Lazydocker Omega King Offline Victim of Pinky's Power Trip! Posts: 11336 Woodbridge, Suffolk Gender: Drives: 2003 3.2 Elite Estate LPG Converted, inspected and Certified	Re: Self levelling Reply #12 - 15. Jul 2011 at 21:58 geoffr70 wrote on 15. Jul 2011 at 21:54: I've got monroes on my elite. The airlines clip on as normal, or there is a hose and pressure gauge allowing you to control pressure manually And do they rise/fall properly if you move the sensor arm?
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geoffr70 Omega Knight Offline Join the 3 litre club! Then the 10.5 l club woo! Posts: 1881 Sunderland Gender: Drives: 2000 f/l 3.0 Elite Saloon auto, 2000 f/l 3.0 MV6 Saloon manual, Dennis RS133 (occasionally!)	Re: Self levelling Reply #13 - 15. Jul 2011 at 22:54 Of course
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Lazydocker Omega King Offline Victim of Pinky's Power Trip! Posts: 11336 Woodbridge, Suffolk Gender: Drives: 2003 3.2 Elite Estate LPG Converted, inspected and Certified	Re: Self levelling Reply #14 - 16. Jul 2011 at 09:16 And is the ride better than standard Vx ones?
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