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tunnie

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Heavy Duty Springs?
04. Aug 2011 at 15:32

Is it worth fitting Heavy Duty Springs to back of my mine? I put new ones on about 2 or 3 years ago, which were standard KYB.

One of them has already snapped, I'm wondering if the extra constant weight of LPG tank would affect them?

Car is used just weekly at the moment rather than daily, so quite often sits for a week with a full-ish tank of gas.

Thoughts?

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henryd Omega Baron Offline Posts: 2172 west cornwall Gender: Drives: Merc E220 estate,previous ride 2.5 elite estate	Re: Heavy Duty Springs? Reply #1 - 04. Aug 2011 at 15:35 Are the non self levelling estate springs stiffer?,if so may be a useful upgrade for a saloon which is carrying permanent extra weight
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tunnie Over Active Poster Offline Posts: 22520 London, W3 Gender: Drives: 2.2 CD (LPG'd) & BMW R1200 GS	Re: Heavy Duty Springs? Reply #2 - 04. Aug 2011 at 15:37 Estate ones I think are bigger (taller), not stiffer ?
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Del Boy Omega Lord Offline Posts: 9381 Ashford, Kent. Gender: Drives: Various things.	Re: Heavy Duty Springs? Reply #3 - 04. Aug 2011 at 16:01 Just get the heavy duty ones, it's a lot of extra weight for it to carry
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Stallion Omega Knight Offline Posts: 1008 Romford Gender: Drives: 2001 --> Irmscher 3.2 Elite <--	Re: Heavy Duty Springs? Reply #4 - 05. Aug 2011 at 03:17 tunnie wrote on 04. Aug 2011 at 15:37: Estate ones I think are bigger (taller), not stiffer ?
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tunnie Over Active Poster Offline Posts: 22520 London, W3 Gender: Drives: 2.2 CD (LPG'd) & BMW R1200 GS	Re: Heavy Duty Springs? Reply #5 - 05. Aug 2011 at 09:20 assume KYB just do 'Heavy Duty' ones if I ask for them at motor factors?
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Stallion Omega Knight Offline Posts: 1008 Romford Gender: Drives: 2001 --> Irmscher 3.2 Elite <--	Re: Heavy Duty Springs? Reply #6 - 06. Aug 2011 at 03:12 Ive tried the so called KYB heavy duty springs on my previous F/L 2.2 saloon, as i was pulling around alot of wait in the boot and tbh i didnt see any difference if anything they were worse than vx standard springs. but thats my view on them, dont know if anyone else has tried them..
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Stallion Omega Knight Offline Posts: 1008 Romford Gender: Drives: 2001 --> Irmscher 3.2 Elite <--	Re: Heavy Duty Springs? Reply #7 - 06. Aug 2011 at 03:13 unless the motor factors claimed they were 'HEAVY DUTY' when they were standard
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Albs Omega King Offline The upgrades are ongoing. Posts: 15083 North Essex Gender: Drives: 2000 2.5CD with LPG/Honda cbr600 FX	Re: Heavy Duty Springs? Reply #8 - 06. Aug 2011 at 05:13 I dont think having a lot of weight in the boot causes the snapping tbh. The roads in this country are in a shocking state, and the shock of potholes etc. kills springs. Broken springs were very rare 20 years ago, nowadays they have almost become a service item.
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Re: Heavy Duty Springs?
Reply #9 - 06. Aug 2011 at 06:59

Albs wrote on 06. Aug 2011 at 05:13:

I dont think having a lot of weight in the boot causes the snapping tbh. The roads in this country are in a shocking state, and the shock of potholes etc. kills springs. Broken springs were very rare 20 years ago, nowadays they have almost become a service item.

Agreed. And it's not just the Omega that suffers Wink

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chrisgixer Omega King Offline Black ones are faster. Posts: 14570 Wokingham Gender: Drives: "Omega Black" 3.2 Elite. Thanks to Joshwyatt.	Re: Heavy Duty Springs? Reply #10 - 06. Aug 2011 at 10:22 Kyb catalogue is available to view on line. Afaik they only do standard and sl springs, but I've never needed to look up heavy duty items. I would only fit heavy duty for load carrying purposes personally.
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Re: Heavy Duty Springs?
Reply #11 - 06. Aug 2011 at 10:34

Lazydocker wrote on 06. Aug 2011 at 06:59:

Albs wrote on 06. Aug 2011 at 05:13:

I dont think having a lot of weight in the boot causes the snapping tbh. The roads in this country are in a shocking state, and the shock of potholes etc. kills springs. Broken springs were very rare 20 years ago, nowadays they have almost become a service item.

Agreed. And it's not just the Omega that suffers Wink

I've not seen one yet.

Fiestas, Mondeos, and C3's on the other hand are virtually a weekly occurance. Low mileage cars seem to be worse for them if that means anything!

The state of the roads certainly can't help, but I think the use of 'pig-tail' springs is a bigger factor; it's usually the tail that snaps off. Plus, recent springs seem to be a lot shorter than older ones; compare a Sierra spring to a Mondeo one for instance, which means they must be stiffer.

Like a lot of(all?) modern stuff, it seems that 'just good enough' isn't!

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Re: Heavy Duty Springs?
Reply #12 - 06. Aug 2011 at 10:48

Lazydocker wrote on 06. Aug 2011 at 06:59:

Albs wrote on 06. Aug 2011 at 05:13:

I dont think having a lot of weight in the boot causes the snapping tbh. The roads in this country are in a shocking state, and the shock of potholes etc. kills springs. Broken springs were very rare 20 years ago, nowadays they have almost become a service item.

Agreed. And it's not just the Omega that suffers Wink

In the last month I've done two on a signum,one on a golf R32 and one on a focus so yes pretty common these days Lips Sealed

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Re: Heavy Duty Springs?
Reply #13 - 06. Aug 2011 at 11:56

henryd wrote on 06. Aug 2011 at 10:48:

Lazydocker wrote on 06. Aug 2011 at 06:59:

Albs wrote on 06. Aug 2011 at 05:13:

I dont think having a lot of weight in the boot causes the snapping tbh. The roads in this country are in a shocking state, and the shock of potholes etc. kills springs. Broken springs were very rare 20 years ago, nowadays they have almost become a service item.

Agreed. And it's not just the Omega that suffers Wink

In the last month I've done two on a signum,one on a golf R32 and one on a focus so yes pretty common these days Lips Sealed

Not surprised at all around there with all the road humps.

Here I travel an extra mile to avoid one road of bumps since I broke the exhaust on them once.

I do not go to the tip so tippable stuff gets binned as I grounded on one bump

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tunnie Over Active Poster Offline Posts: 22520 London, W3 Gender: Drives: 2.2 CD (LPG'd) & BMW R1200 GS	Re: Heavy Duty Springs? Reply #14 - 06. Aug 2011 at 13:53 Thanks Chaps, looks like i will stick with the standard KYB
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