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18. Aug 2011 at 09:56
 
I came across a very cheap set of leather seats - however my car is a saloon, and the seats are from an estate..

I was told the rear seats and door panels wont fit in the saloon.
But can anyone explain to me what the difference is. I was thinking of modifying the seats to fit somehow??
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Reply #1 - 18. Aug 2011 at 10:25
 
dnial wrote on 18. Aug 2011 at 09:56:
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I was told the rear seats and door panels wont fit in the saloon.
But can anyone explain to me what the difference is. I was thinking of modifying the seats to fit somehow??


Find pictures of the estate vs saloon on eBay/etc & the differences are obvious.  Thumbs Up!
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Reply #2 - 18. Aug 2011 at 10:47
 
The rear seat back is completely different on the estate. It has runners on the rear so it can be locked in the down position to give a totally flat load area. The saloon has extra sections on the sides of the seat back, which the estate doesn't.

The rear door cards are interchangable between saloons and estates. It's only the top frame and glass area of the rear doors that are different.

As Andy said, look up some pictures and all will become clear.  Thumbs Up!
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Reply #3 - 18. Aug 2011 at 12:12
 
twiglet wrote on 18. Aug 2011 at 10:47:
The rear seat back is completely different on the estate. It has runners on the rear so it can be locked in the down position to give a totally flat load area. The saloon has extra sections on the sides of the seat back, which the estate doesn't.

The rear door cards are interchangable between saloons and estates. It's only the top frame and glass area of the rear doors that are different.

As Andy said, look up some pictures and all will become clear.  Thumbs Up!


Is the above the only difference between the estate & saloon rear doors. My rear doors are a bit rusty and have been looking out for estate doors...even left some saloon rears in the correct colour. Apologies for a semi-hijack post.
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Reply #4 - 18. Aug 2011 at 13:49
 
twiglet wrote on 18. Aug 2011 at 10:47:
The rear seat back is completely different on the estate. It has runners on the rear so it can be locked in the down position to give a totally flat load area. The saloon has extra sections on the sides of the seat back, which the estate doesn't.

The rear door cards are interchangable between saloons and estates. It's only the top frame and glass area of the rear doors that are different.

As Andy said, look up some pictures and all will become clear.  Thumbs Up!


Yes it's clear to see on pictures that the design and function of the rear seats are not the same.. however in my opinion they should be able to fit physically, as the cars are same size between the doors?
I would't do it the other way around though, as you then would use the function of the seats folding down, when you need the extra space in the estate..

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Reply #5 - 18. Aug 2011 at 15:09
 
dnial wrote on 18. Aug 2011 at 13:49:
..... however in my opinion they should be able to fit physically, as the cars are same size between the doors?  .....


Go for it then!  Huh  Huh  Huh Your user name is quite appropiate.  Wink
The car's might both be the same width, but the rear seats, base & back, are completely different & won't swap between cars as per other answers above.
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Andy B wrote on 18. Aug 2011 at 15:09:
dnial wrote on 18. Aug 2011 at 13:49:
..... however in my opinion they should be able to fit physically, as the cars are same size between the doors?  .....


Go for it then!  Huh  Huh  Huh Your user name is quite appropiate.  Wink
The car's might both be the same width, but the rear seats, base & back, are completely different & won't swap between cars as per other answers above.


Cheesy Cheesy I have removed the backseats from my saloon now, tomorrow i'll have a test fit of the estate seats before byuing them, the guy selling also think im loosing it  Grin
btw the complete cabin is up for only £125 think thats a bargain anyway..?
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Reply #7 - 18. Aug 2011 at 21:41
 
dnial wrote on 18. Aug 2011 at 21:29:
.... tomorrow i'll have a test fit of the estate seats before byuing them, the guy selling also think im loosing it  Grin
btw the complete cabin is up for only £125 think thats a bargain anyway..?


Only if it's any use ............ and the back seats have no chance at all of coming close to fitting  Wink Wink Wink
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Reply #8 - 18. Aug 2011 at 21:57
 
dnial wrote on 18. Aug 2011 at 21:29:
btw the complete cabin is up for only £125 think thats a bargain anyway..?

Not particularly. Last Elite facelift leather I sold for £110, and that was last year.

The seats need to be from the same era - see the posts in FAQ, else you'll get into all sorts of trouble with airbags, heaters etc.

Leather is so common, I'd buy the right ones....   ....if I wanted leather. Leather is horribly uncomfortable, hot and sweaty in summer, cold in winter....   ....the most comfy Omega I've owned was my old Elite 2.5TD with cloth.
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Reply #9 - 19. Aug 2011 at 06:51
 
TheBoy wrote on 18. Aug 2011 at 21:57:
dnial wrote on 18. Aug 2011 at 21:29:
btw the complete cabin is up for only £125 think thats a bargain anyway..?

Not particularly. Last Elite facelift leather I sold for £110, and that was last year.

The seats need to be from the same era - see the posts in FAQ, else you'll get into all sorts of trouble with airbags, heaters etc.

Leather is so common, I'd buy the right ones....   ....if I wanted leather. Leather is horribly uncomfortable, hot and sweaty in summer, cold in winter....   ....the most comfy Omega I've owned was my old Elite 2.5TD with cloth.


Leather is not common in Denmark, and usually goes for about £400-500 over here. I know the seats are warm in summer, and cold in the winter - but they are heated, for the winter, and in the summer the aircon is on..

Your gues are slowly but surely convincing me that the backseats will never fit..  Cry i'll just have to wait for the right set to come on sale then...
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Reply #10 - 19. Aug 2011 at 09:17
 
Rear saloon base is deeper , wider and a totally different shape . Estate base will not fit as pick up points for securing / locking brackets are in the wrong place and it is again shaped for the mid hinge .
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Olympia5776 wrote on 19. Aug 2011 at 09:17:
Rear saloon base is deeper , wider and a totally different shape . Estate base will not fit as pick up points for securing / locking brackets are in the wrong place and it is again shaped for the mid hinge .


The project is still on  Cheesy Cheesy i was just out to see the estate seats, and the base just snappes right in the lock holes  Thumbs Up!

The back rests however need to have the hinges modified/moved quite a bit, and there is a small gap between the backs and the doors that need plastic trimming, but that was included from the estate also, and is very easy to modify to fit also.  Cheesy
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Reply #12 - 19. Aug 2011 at 20:42
 
That's interesting .......
I recently fitted a MV6 interior to mine and the seller inadvertantly sent me a saloon base. There was no way that it would fit even using stretch clamps to try and force it in deep enough to align the securing clips. The seller sent me the correct estate base ( thanks dieseld4  Thumbs Up!) and it clipped straight in.
It would seem that going the other way works, ie fitting estate into saloon so good luck and let us know how it goes . Thumbs Up!
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Olympia5776 wrote on 19. Aug 2011 at 20:42:
That's interesting .......
I recently fitted a MV6 interior to mine and the seller inadvertantly sent me a saloon base. There was no way that it would fit even using stretch clamps to try and force it in deep enough to align the securing clips. The seller sent me the correct estate base ( thanks dieseld4  Thumbs Up!) and it clipped straight in.
It would seem that going the other way works, ie fitting estate into saloon so good luck and let us know how it goes . Thumbs Up!


Maybe it's because mine is a late model?
However the front seats and the panel were the same (as expected) the base of the backseat just popped right in, the trouble was with the rear backs where brackets needed to be cutted and stuff like that Wink also the backs are to wide and need to be modified for the seatbelt roll-up to fit, a somewhat nasty job - but doable if persistant enough  Cheesy Cheesy
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