Omega Owners Forum - NCDR1100, CID, CDC3 programming

teckynou

Newbie

Offline

Posts: 5

NCDR1100, CID, CDC3 programming
09. Sep 2011 at 15:51

Hi.
I apologize if my english is not good.

I have a NCDR1100 and a CID which are paired together, and come from an astra G. CID identifier is KK.
I aad to this configuration a CDC3 TA, and i convert it in TB with a dump found on the internet. it works, but i have CDC safe... of course, the CDC3 is not paired to the NCDR/CID.

now, i'm going to put it in a vectra B.
so i need your help. i see in this forum some people who can do that.

1) I don't have the car pass of the astra, so I want to decrypt the security code with the CID and the NCDR1100 dump (dump available)
2) I want to paired my CDC3.
3) i'm looking for the configuration of the CID : code index, wheel size. adress? is it crypt?
4) vectra B normally have a CID KH, not KK or KJ. the first difference is mechanical. my KK is smaller. the 3 metal plate is on the bottom edge on the KK ans at the to edge in the KH. so the display is up side down. it's not a problem for me : I open my CID, cut the good copper root, et pull it to the 0V, and now, the display is in the good side. but normally, it should be done by software. I think a bit in th 93C56 give the the screen orientation. which one is it????

i have the dump of my NCDR110, CDC3 and CID.

thanks for your help.

Back to top

IP Logged

TheBoy

Administrator

Offline

TBE has an MOT!

Posts: 64817
Brackley, Northants
Gender: male

Drives: 98 MV6, 03 Elite, 00 25, 89 ZX10

Re: NCDR1100, CID, CDC3 programming
Reply #1 - 10. Sep 2011 at 07:28

Sadly, I doubt anyone here knows how to retrieve the pairing code from the HU or CID. My attack method is via CDC3, which is no good to you.

Whatever, you'll need a tech2 to set all the configs. Dumps from the CID are unreliable unless you lift the chip IME. Config locations seem to vary in NCDx depending on board revisions.

If you do find locations for pairing codes, I'm sure I'd love to know Wink

I'm guessing you're not UK, so I can't offer Tech2 to you.

Only other thing I can think of is getting a blank dump on the CID to depair it, a blank dump on the NCDR (or swap the front board from a depaired NCDC201x or NCDR1x00), and getting an Opel dealer to repair the lot. I can assist in what they need to do if you go down that route.

Back to top

If you are going to kick a car, remember to wear appropriate footwear
Any posts are the result of my own views as a member of OOF, which may or may not be the same as my views as part of the Admin Team.

IP Logged

teckynou Newbie Offline Posts: 5	Re: NCDR1100, CID, CDC3 programming Reply #2 - 11. Sep 2011 at 11:44 TheBoy wrote on 10. Sep 2011 at 07:28: . Dumps from the CID are unreliable unless you lift the chip IME. Config locations seem to vary in NCDx depending on board revisions. Whart do you mean by that? I d'ont understand.
Back to top	IP Logged

Dave DND

Omega Baron

Offline

Posts: 3411
DND Services Ltd
Gender: male

Re: NCDR1100, CID, CDC3 programming
Reply #3 - 11. Sep 2011 at 16:13

teckynou wrote on 11. Sep 2011 at 11:44:

TheBoy wrote on 10. Sep 2011 at 07:28:

. Dumps from the CID are unreliable unless you lift the chip IME. Config locations seem to vary in NCDx depending on board revisions.

Whart do you mean by that? I d'ont understand.

He means that you have to physically remove the chips from the board for a correct reading of the dump, as if read in circuit can contain some very innaccurate data.

Lips Sealed

Back to top

Regards

Dave

Radio & Decoding Technician
In Car Audio Service Department

DND Services Ltd
Paignton

01803-391680

dave@dndservices.co.uk
www.dndservices.co.uk
www.instant-radio-codes.com

IP Logged

teckynou Newbie Offline Posts: 5	Re: NCDR1100, CID, CDC3 programming Reply #4 - 12. Sep 2011 at 09:56 that's what I done! I remove the 93C56 form the CID, read it with an universal programmer at my office, then resolder it. all my dump have been done by this way. PS : i'm an electronic engineer.
Back to top	IP Logged

Clarkey Newbie Offline Posts: 37 Ireland Gender: Drives: 01 3.2 Auto	Re: NCDR1100, CID, CDC3 programming Reply #5 - 14. Sep 2011 at 11:36 You will be able to get security code for units you got from astra from the serial number etched into the side of the stereo from your local opel/vaux dealer.
Back to top	IP Logged

teckynou Newbie Offline Posts: 5	Re: NCDR1100, CID, CDC3 programming Reply #6 - 14. Sep 2011 at 11:44 but I must pay for that of course, this is not realy expensive, but security code + programming the CDC3 + programaming the CID + .... is expensive! that's why I'm trying to do it myself.
Back to top	IP Logged

TheBoy

Administrator

Offline

TBE has an MOT!

Posts: 64817
Brackley, Northants
Gender: male

Drives: 98 MV6, 03 Elite, 00 25, 89 ZX10

Re: NCDR1100, CID, CDC3 programming
Reply #7 - 14. Sep 2011 at 18:39

Clarkey wrote on 14. Sep 2011 at 11:36:

You will be able to get security code for units you got from astra from the serial number etched into the side of the stereo from your local opel/vaux dealer.

Nope, not for NCDx units, as the code isn't hard coded. It could be anything.

Thats why we've invested so much time, money, and broken CIDs (bugger, bugger, double bugger) etc, in decoding them Wink

Back to top

If you are going to kick a car, remember to wear appropriate footwear
Any posts are the result of my own views as a member of OOF, which may or may not be the same as my views as part of the Admin Team.

IP Logged

This is the old site. Please use the new site.

This is the old site. Please use the new site.

www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php.

This is the old site. Please use the new site.

	Welcome, Guest. Please Login