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Fitting a Bose sound system in a non Bose Omega
20. Sep 2011 at 14:47

Hello to everyone.
I would like to fit in a Bose sound system. The fact is that I have now an aftermarket 2DIN DVD+GPS+etc. HU. Does anyone know the Bose amp specifications & connections (to sort out in which way to feed the amp or whether this would be possible at all). I assume that with a proper sound signal feed of the Bose amp there will be no issues downstream up to the (Bose) speakers.

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Re: Fitting a Bose sound system in a non Bose Omega
Reply #1 - 20. Sep 2011 at 14:50

Bose speakers, amp and loom must be driven from a Bose H/U which is 4 Ohm, after market head units are not compatible with Bose.

Whilst I like the Bose sound and factory fit look, if you looking at spending money to upgrade, you could obtain better results with modern speakers for same if not less cost.

Sure DaveDND can suggest something appropriate Thumbs Up!

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Re: Fitting a Bose sound system in a non Bose Omega
Reply #2 - 20. Sep 2011 at 15:04

Bose in fact uses 2 ohm speakers so you would need to replace every speaker in the car as a Bose amp is not going to give an acceptable volume level into more commonplace 4 ohm speakers.

Bose amp can't easily be driven by an aftermarket head unit either as it's neither a line level nor speaker level input.

As you're starting from a non-Bose car anyway, I agree that you can do much better by buying an aftermarket amp and a decent set of speakers.

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tunnie Over Active Poster Offline Posts: 22520 London, W3 Gender: Drives: 2.2 CD (LPG'd) & BMW R1200 GS	Re: Fitting a Bose sound system in a non Bose Omega Reply #3 - 20. Sep 2011 at 15:10 D'oh Sorry forgot it was 2 not 4,
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Re: Fitting a Bose sound system in a non Bose Omega
Reply #4 - 20. Sep 2011 at 15:35

Kevin Wood wrote on 20. Sep 2011 at 15:04:

Bose in fact uses 2 ohm speakers so you would need to replace every speaker in the car as a Bose amp is not going to give an acceptable volume level into more commonplace 4 ohm speakers.

Bose amp can't easily be driven by an aftermarket head unit either as it's neither a line level nor speaker level input.

As you're starting from a non-Bose car anyway, I agree that you can do much better by buying an aftermarket amp and a decent set of speakers.

It can.....with a few resistors Thumbs Up!

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Albs Omega King Offline The upgrades are ongoing. Posts: 15083 North Essex Gender: Drives: 2000 2.5CD with LPG/Honda cbr600 FX	Re: Fitting a Bose sound system in a non Bose Omega Reply #5 - 20. Sep 2011 at 15:40 Interesting. Any details (in laymans terms) of how to go about this please Mark.
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Re: Fitting a Bose sound system in a non Bose Omega
Reply #6 - 20. Sep 2011 at 16:23

Marks DTM Calib wrote on 20. Sep 2011 at 15:35:

Kevin Wood wrote on 20. Sep 2011 at 15:04:

Bose in fact uses 2 ohm speakers so you would need to replace every speaker in the car as a Bose amp is not going to give an acceptable volume level into more commonplace 4 ohm speakers.

Bose amp can't easily be driven by an aftermarket head unit either as it's neither a line level nor speaker level input.

As you're starting from a non-Bose car anyway, I agree that you can do much better by buying an aftermarket amp and a decent set of speakers.

It can.....with a few resistors Thumbs Up!

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Dave DND Omega Baron Offline Posts: 3411 DND Services Ltd Gender:	Re: Fitting a Bose sound system in a non Bose Omega Reply #7 - 20. Sep 2011 at 16:53 Quote: It can.....with a few resistors To be fair though, that is way beyond the scope of most people who are reading this
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tunnie Over Active Poster Offline Posts: 22520 London, W3 Gender: Drives: 2.2 CD (LPG'd) & BMW R1200 GS	Re: Fitting a Bose sound system in a non Bose Omega Reply #8 - 20. Sep 2011 at 16:54 Dave DND wrote on 20. Sep 2011 at 16:53: Quote: It can.....with a few resistors To be fair though, that is way beyond the scope of most people who are reading this Just pass the gaffer tape......
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Albs Omega King Offline The upgrades are ongoing. Posts: 15083 North Essex Gender: Drives: 2000 2.5CD with LPG/Honda cbr600 FX	Re: Fitting a Bose sound system in a non Bose Omega Reply #9 - 20. Sep 2011 at 17:55 Its way beyond my scope too, but I work with people who could do it quite easily.Thats why Im interested in the details.
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Re: Fitting a Bose sound system in a non Bose Omega
Reply #10 - 21. Sep 2011 at 11:22

Gaby, if you are looking to upgrade to Bose and want to get back to a standard factory look, you could always buy the full system, ie. NCDCxxxx headunit, CID screen, full Bose loom, amp and speakers.

However, if you want to keep your current aftermarket headunit, you'll find it much easier to go down the traditional route of aftermarket speakers and (depending on the power output of the headunit) aftermarket amps.

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Re: Fitting a Bose sound system in a non Bose Omega
Reply #11 - 21. Sep 2011 at 14:19

Ok, thank you all for your replies. So good to receive proper advice!

It looks that I'll stick to the aftermarket system. The HU has an output power of 4x45 W (that's what they say

) and sounds pretty well (all speakers replaced already with Magnat 75W each and extra, an amplified Kicker subwoofer - 280 W; original tweeters are in place). I think that's enough for normal listening. But it's not "original" Omega... Sad

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Reply #12 - 21. Sep 2011 at 15:52

gaby63 wrote on 21. Sep 2011 at 14:19:

Ok, thank you all for your replies. So good to receive proper advice!

It looks that I'll stick to the aftermarket system. The HU has an output power of 4x45 W (that's what they say

) and sounds pretty well (all speakers replaced already with Magnat 75W each and extra, an amplified Kicker subwoofer - 280 W; original tweeters are in place). I think that's enough for normal listening. But it's not "original" Omega... Sad

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the BOSE will NEVER sound as good as the Magnat setup you have there - however, if you really did want to compromise on sound quality a little in order to get an original looking head unit, you could use any of the Non-Bose Vauxhall head units and fit a small 4x60W amp to drive the Magnat speakers that you have hidden away. From the outside, it would then look original

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Re: Fitting a Bose sound system in a non Bose Omega
Reply #13 - 21. Sep 2011 at 17:36

Have you heard a Bose system in action? I ask because I have lived with one for a while now and I would say it is good but not wonderful. In fact I really can't see what all the fuss is about. I would advise you to have a good listen to your kind of music on an existing Bose system, under various driving conditions, before you commit to major audio transplant surgery.

Obviously tastes differ, but my goal is simply that the sound I hear in the car should be the same as the original performance. The Bose is not too bad at this but certainly not Hi-Fi. I don't care about deafening volume levels but you definitely won't get these out of a Bose either.

Sounds like good advice from Dave DND. As usual Thumbs Up!

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Re: Fitting a Bose sound system in a non Bose Omega
Reply #14 - 21. Sep 2011 at 20:56

tbh ive got it in my MV6 the double din setup you mention minus the @GPS Navigation its not upto much! i even retrofitted a CCRT700 into my old 3.0 MV6 and it was good but i then hanged the headunit for after market setup and butchered an Audi BOSE conversion loom which had resistors in it Roll Eyes

its not worth the hassle vs cost you can get Infinity component speakers which produce much much better sound than bose and with an active sub in the omegas vast boot you have a pretty descent sounding setup you can even get head-units with integrated navigation i know the AVIC X1R is one of the best but they're quite pricey!!!!

BMW OEM speakers sound much better than the BOSE system and they have no power amp or subs lol!!

I will be buying door speaker adaptors and fitting my Infitity components in my 3.2 with my Vibe sub a setup that will honestly produce much much better sound than BOSE

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