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Reply #15 - 14. Oct 2008 at 21:38  
if you remove Norton by any means the system sooner or later will require a fresh install..Because it makes the system really unstable..And personally I wouldnt trust a PC in that state.. Undecided
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Reply #16 - 14. Oct 2008 at 21:44  
Chopsdad wrote on 14. Oct 2008 at 21:37:
Entwood wrote on 14. Oct 2008 at 21:26:
okies .. you have something running quite hard in the background ...

cntrl+alt+del again .. then hit the "processes" tab along the top ..

now click the CPU box twice .. this will put the column in to usage order ...

top one should be "system Idle process"   the others might now flick about a bit .. youi ned to read what processes are working whilst you do nothing .. don't touch mouse/keyboard and have as many other programmes turned off as you can ...



Top of the list are

iexplorer.exe 70,640k
ieuser.exe 3,776k
explorer.exe 19,236k
dwm.exe 14,180k


those look pretty normal to me
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Reply #17 - 14. Oct 2008 at 21:48  
Entwood wrote on 14. Oct 2008 at 21:28:
Bandit127 wrote on 14. Oct 2008 at 21:25:
cem wrote on 14. Oct 2008 at 21:18:
try using msconfig to remove unnecessary programs at start up

http://www.netsquirrel.com/msconfig/msconfig_vista.html

ps: be careful if you decide to remove Norton ..(take back up)

Oohh yes - be very carefull if trying to remove Norton. If you don't get it just right you will have a mess that needs hours of web surfing, file deletion and regisrty hacking to sort out.

...so speaks the voice of painful experience  Sad



Best way to remove norton is to download the "removal tool" from the norton web site .. ridiculous I know .. but it actually saves a load of hassle in the long run ...

You are right. But - you have to get exactly the right version of removal tool. Or you are left with a mess of ... (as per previous post).
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Reply #18 - 14. Oct 2008 at 21:50  
Bandit127 wrote on 14. Oct 2008 at 21:48:
Entwood wrote on 14. Oct 2008 at 21:28:
Bandit127 wrote on 14. Oct 2008 at 21:25:
cem wrote on 14. Oct 2008 at 21:18:
try using msconfig to remove unnecessary programs at start up

http://www.netsquirrel.com/msconfig/msconfig_vista.html

ps: be careful if you decide to remove Norton ..(take back up)

Oohh yes - be very carefull if trying to remove Norton. If you don't get it just right you will have a mess that needs hours of web surfing, file deletion and regisrty hacking to sort out.

...so speaks the voice of painful experience  Sad



Best way to remove norton is to download the "removal tool" from the norton web site .. ridiculous I know .. but it actually saves a load of hassle in the long run ...

You are right. But - you have to get exactly the right version of removal tool. Or you are left with a mess of ... (as per previous post).


I can live with the 2 second delay caused by Norton - it's the 30+ delay in loading OOF pages that's getting me down - and don't even get me started on Ebay speed  Cry
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Reply #19 - 14. Oct 2008 at 21:52  
my idea is : your internet explorer is damaged somewhat..Try other internet tools , if not slow you need to repair ie
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Reply #20 - 14. Oct 2008 at 21:53  
As willyboy says .. that looks normal for a vista machine ....  Sad

I'm guessing that norton is checking every single aspect of every page before loading it, therec is a way of turning off page checking somewhere .. but as i don't use norton I can't remember how ... Sad
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Reply #21 - 14. Oct 2008 at 21:55  
cem wrote on 14. Oct 2008 at 21:52:
my idea is : your internet explorer is damaged somewhat..Try other internet tools , if not slow you need to repair ie


Sorry Cem, I lost that one in translation....say again. Thumbs Up!
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Reply #22 - 14. Oct 2008 at 21:57  
cem is suggesting you try something like mozilla as a web browser in case internet exploder is faulty .. Smiley
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Reply #23 - 14. Oct 2008 at 21:59  
Entwood wrote on 14. Oct 2008 at 21:57:
cem is suggesting you try something like mozilla as a web browser in case internet exploder is faulty .. Smiley


How do I do that then?
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Reply #24 - 14. Oct 2008 at 21:59  
cem wrote on 14. Oct 2008 at 21:52:
my idea is : your internet explorer is damaged somewhat..Try other internet tools , if not slow you need to repair ie

Agreed.

Try turning your modem, router and PC off. Switch back on in reverse order - leave 60 secs between each.

Try the following, in order:
The latest version of IE (if on v.7 revert to 6 and re-install v.7)

Open a command prompt. Type:
ipconfig /release
then
ipconfig /renew

Remove your network adapter from the hardware list. Reboot and let it re-install.
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Reply #25 - 14. Oct 2008 at 22:00  
Chopsdad wrote on 14. Oct 2008 at 21:55:
cem wrote on 14. Oct 2008 at 21:52:
my idea is : your internet explorer is damaged somewhat..Try other internet tools , if not slow you need to repair ie


Sorry Cem, I lost that one in translation....say again. Thumbs Up!


I have this experience with internet explorer many times..To proove this you can use something like firefox..if its fast it means  ie registry is damaged ..You need to repair..But not easy to do. google how to repair ie 7 vista..
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Reply #26 - 14. Oct 2008 at 22:02  
Its all a personal taste thing but I prefer Mozilla Firefox  beats IE  all the time never use IE hardly unless Mozilla not allowed on M-soft sites, then I have to use it ... Roll Eyes

PS type in Google   IE 7 problems theres a list a mile long ! Thumbs Up!
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Reply #27 - 14. Oct 2008 at 22:07  
Chopsdad wrote on 14. Oct 2008 at 21:59:
Entwood wrote on 14. Oct 2008 at 21:57:
cem is suggesting you try something like mozilla as a web browser in case internet exploder is faulty .. Smiley


How do I do that then?  


download and install firefox..So you will have 2 different explorers..

Now I use firefox and ie8 beta at the same time..They can stay together..
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Reply #28 - 14. Oct 2008 at 22:08  
Download Mozilla firefox from here ...

http://developer.mozilla.org/devnews/index.php/2008/06/17/how-to-get-firefox-3/


IMHO its way better than IE anyway .. Smiley

You have to keep IE because

1) windows won't work without it ..

2) some sites use MS version of HTML so won't display properly in Mozilla ..  very few but it happens .. Sad
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Reply #29 - 14. Oct 2008 at 22:13  
After shutting down and restarting per Bandit advice I note "Norton antivirus detection is out of date and turned off"

Is this a factor?
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