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DONE CAM BELT CHANGE - NOW IT RUNS RUBBISH!
08. May 2011 at 21:29

I have just completed a cam belt water pump and auxillary belt change on my lovely V6 and now it runs like a piece of farm machinery!

I changed the plugs whilst i had easier access and when I discovered the problem I put the old ones back in but this hasn't cured it.

I am motoring on a budget and am scared to take the car out at all like this. Can anyone please offer any advice?

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RobG Omega Lord Offline I might have a link, pic or part number for that Posts: 7968 Bristol Gender: Drives: 53 plate 2.2 CD auto	Re: DONE CAM BELT CHANGE - NOW IT RUNS RUBBISH! Reply #1 - 08. May 2011 at 21:30 Either timing is out or you`ve not re-connected a plug somewhere. Any codes on the pedal trick
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Guffer Omega Lord Offline Music to watch girls by.... Posts: 6142 Hampshire Gender: Drives: R Reg 2.5V6 Omega ELITE & P reg Omega 2.5 V6 CDX	Re: DONE CAM BELT CHANGE - NOW IT RUNS RUBBISH! Reply #2 - 08. May 2011 at 21:35 Possibilities are: Air leak Dis pack plugged in wrong (if disturbed) Timing out Something unplugged Is the eml on?
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DTC Newbie Offline Posts: 31 Birmingham, West Midlands Gender: Drives: 2001 2.6 V6	Re: DONE CAM BELT CHANGE - NOW IT RUNS RUBBISH! Reply #3 - 08. May 2011 at 21:36 Pretty sure i have re connected all the plugs - how would the timing be out? I know i didnt use the locking kit, but was advised by other mechanics you didn't need the proper kit? Wold it really send it this bad? What's the pedal trick?
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DTC Newbie Offline Posts: 31 Birmingham, West Midlands Gender: Drives: 2001 2.6 V6	Re: DONE CAM BELT CHANGE - NOW IT RUNS RUBBISH! Reply #4 - 08. May 2011 at 21:37 Emi flashes for a bit then goes to permanent spanner
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Re: DONE CAM BELT CHANGE - NOW IT RUNS RUBBISH!
Reply #5 - 08. May 2011 at 21:39

DTC wrote on 08. May 2011 at 21:36:

Pretty sure i have re connected all the plugs - how would the timing be out? I know i didnt use the locking kit, but was advised by other mechanics you didn't need the proper kit? Wold it really send it this bad?

What's the pedal trick?

Unfortunately you've been given bad advice Sad

To get the timing spot on you must use the correct Locking/Timing tools.

If you haven't got the timing spot on how it used to be, which is probably what has happened, it will run rough

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Re: DONE CAM BELT CHANGE - NOW IT RUNS RUBBISH!
Reply #6 - 08. May 2011 at 21:39

DTC wrote on 08. May 2011 at 21:36:

Pretty sure i have re connected all the plugs - how would the timing be out? I know i didnt use the locking kit, but was advised by other mechanics you didn't need the proper kit? Wold it really send it this bad?

What's the pedal trick?

Because you need a locking kit to do it properly.

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Re: DONE CAM BELT CHANGE - NOW IT RUNS RUBBISH!
Reply #7 - 08. May 2011 at 21:40

DTC wrote on 08. May 2011 at 21:36:

Pretty sure i have re connected all the plugs - how would the timing be out? I know i didnt use the locking kit, but was advised by other mechanics you didn't need the proper kit? Wold it really send it this bad?

What's the pedal trick?

Oh feck

You do need a timing kit, it simply cannot be done without it. Don't listen to any retard who says it can

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Darth Loo-knee Court Jester Offline "If you only knew how much he likes Backsides!" Posts: 20248 Stoke-on-Trent Gender: Drives: An Omega in the Pipeline.....	Re: DONE CAM BELT CHANGE - NOW IT RUNS RUBBISH! Reply #8 - 08. May 2011 at 21:41 You have answered your own question mate, you have not used a locking kit. .
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Andy B Over Active Poster Offline Posts: 21988 Bury Lancs Gender: Drives: 1999 3.0 Elite auto/TDM	Re: DONE CAM BELT CHANGE - NOW IT RUNS RUBBISH! Reply #9 - 08. May 2011 at 21:42 DTC wrote on 08. May 2011 at 21:36: ....how would the timing be out? I know i didnt use the locking kit, .... you've pretty much answered your own question. Put another way, if you didn't use a locking kit, can you be sure the timing is correct?
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TheBoy Administrator Offline TBE has an MOT! Posts: 64817 Brackley, Northants Gender: Drives: 98 MV6, 03 Elite, 00 25, 89 ZX10	Re: DONE CAM BELT CHANGE - NOW IT RUNS RUBBISH! Reply #10 - 08. May 2011 at 21:42 At best, you may just need to retime it using proper kit, and reset tensioner (you did change the tensioner and the idler pulleys?). At worse, you may have some bent valves
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Darth Loo-knee Court Jester Offline "If you only knew how much he likes Backsides!" Posts: 20248 Stoke-on-Trent Gender: Drives: An Omega in the Pipeline.....	Re: DONE CAM BELT CHANGE - NOW IT RUNS RUBBISH! Reply #11 - 08. May 2011 at 21:43 Hope you have not got more than 2 teeth out else good night 24 valves
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DTC Newbie Offline Posts: 31 Birmingham, West Midlands Gender: Drives: 2001 2.6 V6	Re: DONE CAM BELT CHANGE - NOW IT RUNS RUBBISH! Reply #12 - 08. May 2011 at 21:44 have I done any damage? I should have used the correct locking kit I know now- but for £65 for something i would use once seemed a lot of money to just leave on a shelf once used . Just had a new born and the cam kit and pump just cost me enough!
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Andy B Over Active Poster Offline Posts: 21988 Bury Lancs Gender: Drives: 1999 3.0 Elite auto/TDM	Re: DONE CAM BELT CHANGE - NOW IT RUNS RUBBISH! Reply #13 - 08. May 2011 at 21:44 TheBoy wrote on 08. May 2011 at 21:40: ... it simply cannot be done without it. .... It can be done, just not very accurately, and it's not easy to see the mark on the crank.
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Andy B Over Active Poster Offline Posts: 21988 Bury Lancs Gender: Drives: 1999 3.0 Elite auto/TDM	Re: DONE CAM BELT CHANGE - NOW IT RUNS RUBBISH! Reply #14 - 08. May 2011 at 21:46 DTC wrote on 08. May 2011 at 21:44: have I done any damage? ..... We don't know how far out your timing is. I doubt your pistons have met the valves .............. but who knows.
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